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Post by doe on Aug 1, 2009 1:00:00 GMT -5
We can continue the string: Doe, Ray, Me Fubb, Sova.... I'm having real trouble with the la and the ti (or si, as I've seen it spelled) though. Any suggestions?
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Post by roger888 on Aug 1, 2009 9:08:46 GMT -5
Must admit,that tag doesnt bother me .
Wheelchair basketball is a really entertaining spectator sport,more so than AB basketball.Once anyone watches a match ,I think they would be hooked on the sport for what it is , however its advertised.
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Post by Pony on Aug 1, 2009 15:09:04 GMT -5
I don't want to sound snobby, but I just don't get into wheelchair sports, and I dig a lot of sports; college/pro basketball, football, playoff baseball...just not interested in chair sports! Maybe I'm just programed!! ; )
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Post by Ouch on Aug 1, 2009 15:27:05 GMT -5
The push-around thing isn't as cringe-worthy as the prime example, but still is a bit distasteful...
...I'll say it again as I have before to others (primarily in real life), an ultimate sign of solidarity and inclusion would be to integrate the paralympic sports into the olympics, and the singular sports with the regular sports leagues of the world...there's no need for separation...
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Post by Ciao Bella on Aug 1, 2009 18:53:04 GMT -5
Windy, don't get me wrong here ... I do agree with the theory of inclusion, but the reality is just not going to please everyone. Take for example wheelchair tennis (simply because this is the sport I am most exposed to), a single leg amputee would be much better off than a high para in terms of pushing across the court. In my opinion, that's not fair. IMHO, contests should be held among those who have similar capabilities. So in reality, do you honestly think there is a chance for a disabled athlete to surpass his AB counterpart in their chosen sport? Because, let's all admit, what's the point of competing if you don't aim to win?
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Post by devogirl on Aug 2, 2009 2:34:35 GMT -5
Well w/c basketball and rugby have a point system for evaluating a person's level of function, that allows people with varying abilities to compete. I think the same system is used for other sports too. Otherwise the teams would be all amputees or very low level SCI. So even in the paralympics people are divided by ability. But back to the topic at hand... Thanks very much Doe for posting this. I watched some of the clips (on Youtube, the main site seems not to play in other countries). First of all, that guy is HOT, and for someone who has never been able to see, a pretty good dancer. I once tried to teach a blind guy to dance, and it was almost impossible. He could do aikido, and he was pretty athletic, but not the slightest bit graceful. So Gosen is quite impressive. BUT, as you said, listening to the judges was painful, horribly cringe-inducing. These reality/competition shows are always about emotional torture, throw in some awkward patronizing, and it's just unbearable. Like you, I'm glad to see disabled people get more exposure on TV, but it sucks that rather than getting people who could actually win, they seem to be charity cases. This seems to be a trend--wasn't Marlee Matlin on Dancing with the Stars in the US? And there was that blind guy on American Idol, I've forgotten his name already, because he was so awful, and clearly out of his league. There was a blind girl on America's Next Top Model a few years ago too. Oh and the runner who petitioned to be in the regular Olympics was Oscar Pistorius. Do a google image search on him, he's a hottie. Or check him out (along with a bunch of other paralympians) here: ladiesdotdotdot.wordpress.com/2008/11/10/hot-paralympians/
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Post by doe on Aug 2, 2009 21:36:07 GMT -5
Must admit,that tag doesnt bother me . Wheelchair basketball is a really entertaining spectator sport,more so than AB basketball.Once anyone watches a match ,I think they would be hooked on the sport for what it is , however its advertised. R, I have seen a wheelchair basketball match, several in fact at the Sydney 2000 paraolympic games and you're right it is a great sport. I also went to the closing ceremony which was just awesome and had the best atmosphere. Total kudos to all disabled athletes.
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Post by roger888 on Aug 3, 2009 11:43:52 GMT -5
I think basketball for me is the ideal example when comparing Olympics & Paralympics,because the AB version is about as exciting as watching paint dry.
Going back to windriders post.Intergration between Paralympics(P) & Olympics(O) has to come eventually.Only way I can see it taking place is if they have 2 Olympics seperated by a few weeks,like they did with the P's &O's in China.All the swimming disciplines in the first one & all the Athletics in the 2nd.Then fit all the other sports in the remaining gaps of the schedule.
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Post by Phil on Aug 3, 2009 18:24:48 GMT -5
I don't want to sound snobby, but I just don't get into wheelchair sports, and I dig a lot of sports; college/pro basketball, football, playoff baseball...just not interested in chair sports! Maybe I'm just programed!! ; ) I must be programmed, too. I'm a sports fan myself. I recognize the ability, conditioning and effort needed to compete. I just find it boring, lol.
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Post by Ouch on Aug 4, 2009 3:47:09 GMT -5
Windy, don't get me wrong here ... I do agree with the theory of inclusion, but the reality is just not going to please everyone. Take for example wheelchair tennis (simply because this is the sport I am most exposed to), a single leg amputee would be much better off than a high para in terms of pushing across the court. In my opinion, that's not fair. IMHO, contests should be held among those who have similar capabilities. So in reality, do you honestly think there is a chance for a disabled athlete to surpass his AB counterpart in their chosen sport? Because, let's all admit, what's the point of competing if you don't aim to win? Well jumping into disabled persons being able to defeat ABs, I think it's completely possible. In fact, I've done it myself with multiple sports...and these persons were trained in the sport as much as I... ...but on to the feasability - I'm not talking about mixing everyone in a hodgepodge, think about it - even in the Olympics, there are different classes of athletes - we wouldn't necessarily be putting ABs against disabled athletes, lol - but rather take the Paralympic events, and hold them during the Olympics as well, and call the whole event the Olympics. That's not hard at all, and the Paralympics would have a chance to get the television /media coverage they deserve...
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Post by Ciao Bella on Aug 4, 2009 21:46:01 GMT -5
Windy for the Olympic Commitee President! or Chairman (pardon the pun) !!!!
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Post by Ciao Bella on Aug 4, 2009 21:50:23 GMT -5
We can continue the string: Doe, Ray, Me Fubb, Sova.... I'm having real trouble with the la and the ti (or si, as I've seen it spelled) though. Any suggestions? Doe -Ray - Me - Fubb - So-va - E -Doe how does that sound?
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Post by Ouch on Aug 4, 2009 23:14:08 GMT -5
We can continue the string: Doe, Ray, Me Fubb, Sova.... I'm having real trouble with the la and the ti (or si, as I've seen it spelled) though. Any suggestions? Doe -Ray - Me - Fubb - So-va - E -Doe how does that sound? I think you've got it.
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Post by doe on Aug 4, 2009 23:46:05 GMT -5
Doe -Ray - Me - Fubb - So-va - E -Doe how does that sound? Ms Isabelle, I'm happy to pass on E's honorary flippin' brilliant baton to you. Well done! It's nice to see that the Aussie women are holding up their end in contributing to the entertainment on this board ;D.
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Post by E on Aug 5, 2009 7:06:54 GMT -5
Ma-tisse really should be in there somewhere.
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