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Post by Pony on Nov 22, 2009 11:11:50 GMT -5
Did you ever think the Charlie Sheen + kitchen table scene wasn't a dream at all??? hehe
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Post by Ouch on Nov 22, 2009 12:26:56 GMT -5
I had forgotten that. That dreams sometimes help you process things that are happening in real life. I have some friends who have done lucid dreaming. Where (if I understand it right) you begin to direct action and make changes in the dream. That's supposed to help you deal with events, too. Stuff where maybe you wish you had handled something differently or needed to seize power from another. Not sure if that would work for an accident situation or not, fubb. As I understand it, though, lucid dreaming does not always allow for very restful sleep. And now... some links... (Far more than you wanted, I'm sure. But this has snagged me for a few minutes so everyone else has to suffer ;D) This website offers info on lucid dreaming AND info on combating nightmares with it. www.dreamviews.com/ That one didn't seem to have any info or experience with trauma induced nightmares... so here are some additional links. Not sure about this one... it seems to have decent info for dealing with dream people... but I'm including it anyway... www.lucidity.com/EWLD10.html... it's actually a chapter from a book. I liked this bit of text from this website.... www.lucidfun.com/benefits-of-lucid-dreaming ... there's some info there that makes me want to give lucid dreaming a go... (not the nightmare stuff I'm quoting... some of the other stuff... ) Nightmares
Some people have found that lucid dreaming is an excellent way to combat re-occurring nightmares. The main problem with people’s nightmares is that they are usually a victim.
Whether they are running away from a monster, being threatened in some way or re-living a traffic accident and seeing themselves or a loved one come to harm, they are always a ‘victim’ in the nightmare with little to no control over how the dream pans out.. There is always a negative element that is oppressing them.
Lucid dreaming can help here because in a lucid dream it’s you that is in control. If you don’t like the nasty monster then wish it away and it will go. If you can become lucid whilst in the middle of a nightmare you can literally take control and end the negative aspect.
Much of the fear in a nightmare is that of being hurt or coming to harm. You cannot be hurt when you are dreaming. That knowledge and empowerment gives many people the edge they need to finally put their nightmares to rest.There's some good stuff in this wall'o'text... community.lionhead.com/forums/post/2441651.aspx ... I'd be careful with the supplement stuff though. As I understand it, from the little bit I read this morning, it has to do with being aware (or becoming aware) that it's a dream and that the event itself is over and no longer can do the kind of damage it did then. Bringing the waking knowledge that it's in the past into the dream of the event. There are lots of books too. Fubbbbuff, I hope that you find something useful in this. Neffie, I want to hear about Charlie Sheen and the kitchen table. o.o lol I have some pretty hardcore lucid dreaming, too - to the point that I wake up, and am surprised I wasn't already awake. It's weird, because I get my 'deepest', 'longest' sleep from when I'm lucid, but yet it can feel so tiring. I once went through an entire 'workday' in my sleep, and woke up and was oh so horribly disappointed to find out none of it had counted.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Nov 22, 2009 13:13:41 GMT -5
I have some pretty hardcore lucid dreaming, too - to the point that I wake up, and am surprised I wasn't already awake. It's weird, because I get my 'deepest', 'longest' sleep from when I'm lucid, but yet it can feel so tiring. I once went through an entire 'workday' in my sleep, and woke up and was oh so horribly disappointed to find out none of it had counted. I don't lucid dream. I hardly ever remember my dreams. According to the bit I've read it'll be a challenge for me to lucid dream because I'll have to go through the extra step of remembering my dreams. Have you ever used it to "accomplish" anything? Like it was suggesting with the nightmares? Oh, and that would totally suck, to work all night and wake up to realize it's a dream. And why Mistral?
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Nov 22, 2009 13:14:41 GMT -5
Nm, Mistrally, I googled it.
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Post by Ouch on Nov 23, 2009 14:37:40 GMT -5
I have some pretty hardcore lucid dreaming, too - to the point that I wake up, and am surprised I wasn't already awake. It's weird, because I get my 'deepest', 'longest' sleep from when I'm lucid, but yet it can feel so tiring. I once went through an entire 'workday' in my sleep, and woke up and was oh so horribly disappointed to find out none of it had counted. I don't lucid dream. I hardly ever remember my dreams. According to the bit I've read it'll be a challenge for me to lucid dream because I'll have to go through the extra step of remembering my dreams. Have you ever used it to "accomplish" anything? Like it was suggesting with the nightmares? Oh, and that would totally suck, to work all night and wake up to realize it's a dream. And why Mistral? Ah, well, at times I wish I could forget...a lot of things...unfortunately, my brain is like on 'constant record', so I remember just about everything... I can't say I've accomplished much...post-event in terms of lucid dreaming, but it has helped me undertake things to come, if that makes any sense (or...everyone just thinks ol' Windy is crazy...though I'm pretty sure that's been the running theory for years now) - I can 'plan ahead' for things I expect with lucid dreaming, like a dress rehearsal for things I expect to come...
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Post by Phil on Nov 23, 2009 14:49:34 GMT -5
It's pretty rare if I remember a dream. I always thought it would be very cool to somehow record our dreams to view them later. I knew someone that could "steer" their dreams, but there is/was no way I could do it.
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Post by doe on Nov 23, 2009 16:15:27 GMT -5
It's pretty rare if I remember a dream. I always thought it would be very cool to somehow record our dreams to view them later. I knew someone that could "steer" their dreams, but there is/was no way I could do it. Ditto about remembering my dreams. There is one recurring one I have about always turning up unprepared and late for my final school exam. I have no idea what it means, but maybe now the picture will become clearer and I will find out that I'm running late and unprepared because I've been distracted by a cute wheeler...... .
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Post by Neffie on Nov 23, 2009 16:23:26 GMT -5
Just for the record I'm pretty sure I never had sex with Charlie Sheen on a kitchen table in front of my Dad (oh what? I didn't mention that? ) If I dream they are usually pretty messed up which says a lot. I make every effort to have sweet dreams. I recently spent an entire afternoon watching Jason Statham films then went to sleep and had a sex dream about Susan Boyle (who, incidentally was my social worker). I don't know what concerns me more...that I have a subconscious that tells me I need a social worker or that I have one that finds it acceptable for me to steal SuBo's cherry! At the end of the day most people don't have control over where their mind goes. I have a lot of sleepless nights because I'm a born worrier but I still laugh when I wake up and realise I went on a totally natural 'trip'. I just wish I had dreams about something sexier (although that can of 7up haunts me still).
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Post by Phil on Nov 23, 2009 17:04:33 GMT -5
The 'I DREAMED A DREAM from Les Miserables' Susan Boyle?
THAT Susan Boyle? ;D
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Post by Phil on Nov 23, 2009 17:08:05 GMT -5
It's pretty rare if I remember a dream. I always thought it would be very cool to somehow record our dreams to view them later. I knew someone that could "steer" their dreams, but there is/was no way I could do it. Ditto about remembering my dreams. There is one recurring one I have about always turning up unprepared and late for my final school exam. I have no idea what it means, but maybe now the picture will become clearer and I will find out that I'm running late and unprepared because I've been distracted by a cute wheeler...... . Sounds like stress, Doe. Your subconscious mind is creating a scenerio of high stress to convey a message. Sorry to pi$$ on your 'cute wheeler' corn flakes, lol.
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Post by Phil on Nov 23, 2009 17:10:57 GMT -5
I'm sure you could if you trained yourself. I bought a book years ago that helped me learn how to first recall dreams, then recognise when dreaming and eventually have some control over them. I don't know if I would recommend doing it though because it caused a lot of restless sleep for a long long time. Can't remember the name of the book offhand but it was by Stephen LaBerge I now recall about 3 dreams per night and I'd say most of them are lucid. I don't like to control dreams now though - it was too much of a mindf*ck, tbh. Even when I am lucid, I prefer just to sit back and enjoy the show and think "WTF?!" at the crazy stuff my brain comes up with!! At least if it's something bad I am (more often than not) aware that it is a dream. Sometimes I will try to prolong good dreams but that's as far as I go with controlling them these days. Thanks, but I really don't want to learn how. ;D I'm happy being a passenger in my dreams on the rare occasions I remember them. ;D
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Post by doe on Nov 23, 2009 18:35:29 GMT -5
Sounds like stress, Doe. Your subconscious mind is creating a scenerio of high stress to convey a message. Sorry to pi$$ on your 'cute wheeler' corn flakes, lol. Philbo, now you're a dream therapist as well... do your talents know no bounds ? And I've told you before its not corn flakes....its fruit loops ;D. BTW, Stud Pony has offered to show me a few ways to relieve my stress... has something to do with running bases, but I'm happy to listen to alternatives.....
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Post by Phil on Nov 23, 2009 19:11:01 GMT -5
Live with a shrink for as long as I did, Doe, and something's bound to wear off. *rollseyes*
I'd watch out with that Tony Pony dude... I'm thinking he's a player. ;D (hoping he reads this)
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Post by Pony on Nov 24, 2009 14:01:39 GMT -5
Philler, you were so bad off you had to MOVE IN with your therapist??? Sheeesh. hehe
Don't worry, I always get thrown out rounding 3rd sliding into home....; )
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Post by Phil on Nov 24, 2009 14:22:20 GMT -5
;D No Tony, I'm not THAT screwed-up. She moved in with me. Always get thrown out at the plate? Always?? I was born at night, but it wasn't last night...
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