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Post by jc on Mar 4, 2005 15:29:04 GMT -5
This wannabe thread based on a conversation between myself and ungava...
Does anybody know of a way to bring about temporary paralysis without permanent side effects? Yeah, this is definately the "holy grail" for wannabe's, I know. For example, I'm sure many are aware of the spinal block procedure, though I've never heard of it applied to bring about paralysis from anythign higher than the waist down. Another example is the movie "Extreme Measures," where Hugh Grant is temporarily paralzed from the neck down by some kind of IV administered drip. Was this based on something medically real? Or was it only done to fit the context of the film?
I suspect there's a lot of wannabe's that, like ungava and I discussed, are craving the chance to experience their fantasy for real without permanent side effects.
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Post by jc on Mar 4, 2005 15:29:39 GMT -5
Sorry, thread should be entitled "Safe" not "Save"... my bad
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Post by Moona on Mar 4, 2005 15:33:27 GMT -5
I wish there'd be a safe way  I'd try it at once ... There is a method to become a paraplegic (but permanent) without having an accident. If you have an overdose of chickpeas over a long period of time (weeks to months), you become paralyzed from the waist down, but the risks of more side effects are too high  Maybe someone else has an idea ... |
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Post by ungava on Mar 4, 2005 15:36:54 GMT -5
As my name is in the text, I'll just write to say that YES we had that discussion...LOL
So let it be known...there is an interest!
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Post by jc on Mar 4, 2005 15:37:49 GMT -5
I talked to someone once who said all you had to do was find someone skilled in the spinal block procedure, either a nurse or doctor, and that the effect would last several hours. But I hear from others that this procedure is not generally regarded as safe, probably why they never administer it any higher than needed to create paralysis from the waist down
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Post by Pisti on Mar 5, 2005 5:35:40 GMT -5
Docs here around use this kind of thing in case of moms who are not able to give birth to their child the natural way and need to have a surgery (Caesarean section,...) but want to stay awake when the baby comes. So boys - all you have to do is get pregnant!  |
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Post by Jerry on Mar 5, 2005 11:39:52 GMT -5
As a dr, allow me to enlighten y'all:
Spinal block is safe because the anesthetic is injected in the region of the cauda equina at the L4-5 vertebrae, which is where the nerve roots are (for the lower part of the cord, i.e. the lower limbs), but no actual spinal cord. If you wanted to achieve paralysis at the level of the neck, then you would have to inject at a much higher level--around where the neck is. Since there is real spinal cord here, there would be a danger of damaging it with the needle. And as you all know, central nerves are incapable of regeneration, so this could very likely cause permanent damage. Thus a temporary quadriplegia is possible, but not safe by any means.
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Post by Moona on Mar 5, 2005 11:58:59 GMT -5
Docs here around use this kind of thing in case of moms who are not able to give birth to their child the natural way and need to have a surgery (Caesarean section,...) but want to stay awake when the baby comes). But u still have some feelings, but acutally no pain. And movement of the lower limbs is still possible ... |
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Post by nypdwheeler on Mar 5, 2005 14:37:16 GMT -5
i had a spinal block in december for knee surgery.... instant paraplegic.....it was the best feeling.....
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Post by jc on Mar 5, 2005 17:11:50 GMT -5
Bummer... not sure I'd want to take the chance on becoming a quad permanently... or would I... I guess I'll have to keep hoping that someone comes up with a safe method... Hey, nypdwheeler, how long were you a para after the spinal block was administered? |
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Post by jc on Mar 5, 2005 18:36:39 GMT -5
Hey wannabes, check this link out: www.calmness.com/devotee.htmThis site claims to use hypnosis to induce paralysis. I am very skeptical, but if this is in fact real, it sounds safe to me, sign me up!!! |
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Post by Pisti on Mar 7, 2005 1:41:32 GMT -5
But u still have some feelings, but acutally no pain. And movement of the lower limbs is still possible ... Alright, alright! Just a friend of mine told me how wierd it felt... |
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Post by ungava on Mar 7, 2005 10:41:49 GMT -5
But then...is the spinal block something easily possible?
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Post by Moona on Mar 7, 2005 11:39:58 GMT -5
Unless u won't have a Caesarean section or knee surgery in the future, I doubt that a physician will give u a spinal block just for fun. And - that is the most important thing - a spinal block is used for anesthetic reasons, so the experience will not be a "real" one.
I know of amputee wannabes who tried so many things to lose their leg(s). Many of them die, some of them are successful. The problem with para wannabes is, that there is no safe way to just try it out (an amp wannabe can simulate a cut-off leg as u might know) and there is also no safe way of becoming a paraplegic "by accident". I just recommend to all wannabes not to risk their lives while attempting a sci ... and trying out is dangerous too!!!!
Go out and pretend, meet with wc people, talk to them, be the "typical" devotee but please stay alive ...
I know that most of you don't reconsider becoming a paraplegic "by accident", but I still believe that there are some weirdos out there who think about it and I just want them to near in mind the risks they take ...
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Post by ungava on Mar 7, 2005 11:53:26 GMT -5
Are you telling me I cant swing a jackhammer at myself and hope real hard?
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(for those you not sure yet...i was kidding on that comment)
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I'd try it at once ...
