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Post by Emma on Dec 28, 2012 21:44:54 GMT -5
Mind controlled prosthetics are not a cure for an amputee, just a way to help someone better control a prosthetic and make it useful. I have no issue with better prosthetics to make someones like easier.
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Post by A££Y "Cuddles" Magoo on Dec 28, 2012 21:46:03 GMT -5
Hey, dr332 Have you ever been with a person with SCI? or had friends or anything like that? I'm just curious because, from afar...if you don't know any disabled people, and you just see a hot guy in a chair around here and there...You might think, hey! what's wrong with that? He's cute! But if you actually talk with someone about what it's like to lose the use of their body, and deal with the crap that comes along with SCI...your perspective totally shifts. I remember asking a quad I dated "what positive things have come from this" (expecting that he had some enlightened experience and was now a better person...blah, blah) He looked at me like I had two heads and explained what it had been like and it was heart breaking...ever since that moment, I have fantasies about a cure +2 That's really quite true. Like if someone asked how living with CP has shaped me for the better, I'd be hard pressed to find an answer. The most positive thing I could say about it is that I appreciate the little things. But as for being thankful that I have it? Nope sorry... lol Don't get me wrong, living with CP is fine and u really do get used to the things that u are unable to do. But if there was a risk free cure for CP u would never see me turn it down. Unless of course I was with the dev of my dreams that is?
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Post by brace4impact on Dec 28, 2012 23:40:39 GMT -5
A$$y, you got it wrong, get the girl THEN the cure
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Post by A££Y "Cuddles" Magoo on Dec 29, 2012 4:14:07 GMT -5
A$$y, you got it wrong, get the girl THEN the cure Ahh but there lies the question. If I get the girl and THEN get the cure, would I loose the girl, if the girl was a dev?
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Post by brace4impact on Dec 29, 2012 9:45:43 GMT -5
Well that's when you have to put on the charm machine, so that she couldn't leave you no matter what. Or blackmail her, blackmailing always works
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Post by BA on Dec 29, 2012 16:10:13 GMT -5
A$$y, you got it wrong, get the girl THEN the cure Ahh but there lies the question. If I get the girl and THEN get the cure, would I loose the girl, if the girl was a dev? Therein lies the truth. If you lose the girl after you get the cure, then maybe the girl is worth losing. I have always been curious as to why the quads I know appear so much less focused on a cure and even (if I may make a strong statement) less angry about their sci that the para's I have known. Anyone want to offer a hypothesis? I cannot agree with Vancityippy's comments more. My sexual preferences would certainly go to the back of that very long bus if a true and total cure were available.
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Post by greenbean on Dec 29, 2012 16:40:00 GMT -5
I don't know if I would use the word 'wrong' per say... just sounds pretty darn uninformed. I wonder whether or not you know anyone with a disability... my uncle became a quad in his teens and now that he's in his 70's and old age has caught up with him life is a lot more work.
If there was a miracle 'cure' I would have absolutely no hesitation about the person in question receiving it, provided the cure was safe and backed-up by multiple trials/studies/dependable research. I also have no intention of being with a wheeler just because of his disability, so it would be my hope that whether my dude was walkin or rollin we would be just as sweet together... And lord knows I got enough youtube videos and short stories (complements of these lovely ladies) to keep me busy for a lifetime...
oh, and everything vancity said
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Post by ProudRealist on Dec 29, 2012 18:43:46 GMT -5
People, you're totally looking at this from the wrong angle...as a quad, i don't have to feed myself, i get others to shower and dress me (& all the other grooming that goes with it), i am completely exempt from those annoying chores around the house, in bed i get the girls to do all the work, i get the best parking spots, and generally i'm NEVER asked to help out with ANYTHING ;D My life would make the old Roman Caesars envious So, ask yourself...do i really want a cure and lose a life of sheer luxury? I bet you didn't see that coming PS On a more serious note, YES dr332, it is very wrong to find the thought of a 'cure' depressing - more specifically, very selfish!
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Post by Kid A on Dec 29, 2012 20:19:51 GMT -5
I'm on board with DG and PR on this one. That being said, I think there is nothing wrong with having a diverse population, disability is included in that. However, acquired disabilities are a whole other animal, since the individual has essentially led two different lives and may have a strong desire to return as much as possible to the life s/he led prior to injury. I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting a cure; nor is there anything wrong with not desiring to be cured. To echo what others have said, I would never put my dev-ness over my love's desire to improve his quality of life. I love him no matter what. <3
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Post by janewheeler on Dec 29, 2012 22:02:14 GMT -5
We'll always have a diversity of abilities, regardless of research. People will acquire disabilities and have to wait for treatment (which may never be available to a large segment of the population). New and more troubling congenital issues and acquired illnesses will always occur thanks to hastily thought out use of chemicals, etc.
Basically, the world will always provide a wealth of opportunities to screw up our bodies. So let's just make the most of it with what we have, whatever that happens to be.
Unless you're B4I, in which case you should never change. Limped, gimped and pimped indeed.
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Post by A££Y "Cuddles" Magoo on Dec 30, 2012 23:34:01 GMT -5
Well that's when you have to put on the charm machine, so that she couldn't leave you no matter what. Or blackmail her, blackmailing always works +1 ;D
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Post by A££Y "Cuddles" Magoo on Dec 31, 2012 0:08:02 GMT -5
Ahh but there lies the question. If I get the girl and THEN get the cure, would I loose the girl, if the girl was a dev? Therein lies the truth. If you lose the girl after you get the cure, then maybe the girl is worth losing. I have always been curious as to why the quads I know appear so much less focused on a cure and even (if I may make a strong statement) less angry about their sci that the para's I have known. Anyone want to offer a hypothesis? I cannot agree with Vancityippy's comments more. My sexual preferences would certainly go to the back of that very long bus if a true and total cure were available. I think the answer is quite simple. U can't be born as a para, but u can be born as a quad. So if ur looking at someone like me, it all I've ever known. That fact alone makes it much easier to live with since I've have nothing else to compare it to. I don't know if quads by injury feel the same way, If they doo, your guess is as good as mine. If the dev was worth it, I don't think I'd get it. But it's a slippery slope, lots a devs are happy with ab guys but lots a devs simply can't be. So how do u know really? I think all devs would try to be with their partners if they got the cure. But there's no telling how things might change if that were to happen. I know tons of devs who have loved ab guys but it's just not enough. So if I had me a dev and we ever happy, I wouldn't mess with that, even if it meant never being able wipe my own ass.
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Post by spurs2000 on Dec 31, 2012 10:02:35 GMT -5
Vancity's response is interesting...it's true that the chair is only the tip of the iceberg, especially for a c5c6 SCI that pushes and drives. There's just soooo many more physical/emotional battles than a para. But everyone handles things differently, and so ur level injury doesn't automatically determine how adjusted you are. However, I'm not like Vancity's friend, in that there were no positives. It's a complicated story, and my journey has been paved with sharp rocks on the road, but I still LOVE my journey. I have climbed proverbial mountains, and with that comes pride, purpose and, (I love this word), panache!! Let me just say, ironically, sex has been a whole different, and possibly better, experience to me. Do I miss some things, like physical orgasm? Yes, but my pleasure center is still very intact, and very stimulated. As for a cure, I think they could probably pull off some curing in certain SCIs, but don't hold ur breath. This will move at a snail's pace...it's much more financially rewarding to come close, than actually curing. I feel similar!
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Post by dr332 on Dec 31, 2012 10:21:59 GMT -5
Mind controlled prosthetics are not a cure for an amputee, just a way to help someone better control a prosthetic and make it useful. I have no issue with better prosthetics to make someones like easier. That would be the same as me saying I had no issue with a paraplegic using a bionic suit, which I don't. And surely that has to do with the fact that, at the end of the day, the disability is still there.
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Post by dr332 on Dec 31, 2012 10:26:44 GMT -5
People, you're totally looking at this from the wrong angle...as a quad, i don't have to feed myself, i get others to shower and dress me (& all the other grooming that goes with it), i am completely exempt from those annoying chores around the house, in bed i get the girls to do all the work, i get the best parking spots, and generally i'm NEVER asked to help out with ANYTHING ;D My life would make the old Roman Caesars envious So, ask yourself...do i really want a cure and lose a life of sheer luxury? I bet you didn't see that coming PS On a more serious note, YES dr332, it is very wrong to find the thought of a 'cure' depressing - more specifically, very selfish! I appreciate what you are saying - I think it's almost inevitable that disabled people will feel differently to devs. But I can't help the way I feel, even if it may not be 'politically correct'. For me theres nothing more attractive than a paraplegic man in a wheelchair, so yeah I find the thought of them not even 'existing' at some point in the future utterly depressing.
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