HottRodd
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Dev Status: Disabled Male
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Post by HottRodd on Oct 27, 2019 16:44:20 GMT -5
This is a good and interesting topic! I for sure think its ok to joke about everything. I do not like the PC culture that we live in today. If you are a good comedian you cant make jokes if you are constantly afraid to step on peoples toes.
Look at Joe Swanson. To me he is a perfect example of a handicapable cripple. The series jokes about his disabilty all the time, and to me its funny. But he is always a force to be reckoned with.
I think this is important for us disabled people. In order to become more included in society, if we want to be treated more "normal" and "just like everyone else, then we need to be ok to get joked around with sometimes. Just like everyone else.
Also, For some, dark humor helps us cope with the realities of life. That's okay. You can usually tell if a joke is mean spirited.
Thank you all for reading and have a wheelie nice day.
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Post by James on Oct 27, 2019 17:59:18 GMT -5
I'm in the no comedy should be off limits camp. I'm not a fan of policing humor, language etc... in general.
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Post by feelsunshine on Oct 27, 2019 18:00:33 GMT -5
HottRodd“a wheelie nice day” ... that wheelie made my day 😊 I don’t recall reading it like this before. But that’s so cute, and fits in here perfectly!
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Post by kwhi on Oct 27, 2019 18:13:31 GMT -5
Humor used in the right way is a good way to create acceptance of folks with disability.Humor can be highly normative. Humor can put everyone on the same playing field. Humor if used by a PWD can be empowering. Humor if used by a mean asshole can be demeaning and hurtful. To me it is all about context!
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raindrop
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Post by raindrop on Oct 27, 2019 19:29:03 GMT -5
Humor used in the right way is a good way to create acceptance of folks with disability.Humor can be highly normative. Humor can put everyone on the same playing field. Humor if used by a PWD can be empowering. Humor if used by a mean asshole can be demeaning and hurtful. To me it is all about context! Well said.
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Post by Mets on Oct 27, 2019 21:33:44 GMT -5
no
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Post by linda on Oct 27, 2019 22:26:25 GMT -5
No to the previous answer or no to the question in general? And if you mean the latter, would you mind clarifying a bit, @steve? (Wait... after everything I’ve seen from you here so far... it occurs to me that you might be meaning it as a joke... but I don’t want to be too forward on a sensitive issue...)
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Post by Tek on Oct 28, 2019 8:56:50 GMT -5
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Post by Mets on Oct 28, 2019 14:32:26 GMT -5
In fact, my disability was caused by a joke.
It was the night of prom, and I was suited up in my finest tuxedo. As per school rules, alcohol was not permitted, but of course that didn’t stop a group of rambunctious hooligans from getting a bit tipsy. Jimmy thought it’d be funny to spike the fruit punch with some booze, but he had no idea of the grim consequences that decision would have.
As a pack of hopeful seniors slowly lined up near the punch to fill their cups, the bowl heated up and exploded from the liquored-up fruity concoction, and sharp glass fragments shot across the room. While girls in heels danced away to Taylor Swift’s latest bop, one piece of glass went straight into my spinal cord. Nearly every student on line for punch was permanently disabled that night.
When it comes to disability, punch lines aren’t funny.
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Post by linda on Oct 28, 2019 14:40:41 GMT -5
In fact, my disability was caused by a joke. It was the night of prom, and I was suited up in my finest tuxedo. As per school rules, alcohol was not permitted, but of course that didn’t stop a group of rambunctious hooligans from getting a bit tipsy. Jimmy thought it’d be funny to spike the fruit punch with some booze, but he had no idea of the grim consequences that decision would have. As a pack of hopeful seniors slowly lined up near the punch to fill their cups, the bowl heated up and exploded from the liquored-up fruity concoction, and sharp glass fragments shot across the room. While girls in heels danced away to Taylor Swift’s latest bop, one piece of glass went straight into my spinal cord. Nearly every student on line for punch was permanently disabled that night. When it comes to disability, punch lines aren’t funny. @steve, you got me there but I noticed you weren’t serious when you mentioned every student got permanently disabled that night. I have a broad fantasy... That story would fit just as well in the thread „Lies“...😂
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Post by pumafreak on Oct 28, 2019 15:18:25 GMT -5
I was wondering about that myself. I mean can a wheelchair user, ever become a stand up comedian 🤔🤔🤔
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Post by AlrightyAphrodite on Oct 28, 2019 15:26:05 GMT -5
In fact, my disability was caused by a joke. It was the night of prom, and I was suited up in my finest tuxedo. As per school rules, alcohol was not permitted, but of course that didn’t stop a group of rambunctious hooligans from getting a bit tipsy. Jimmy thought it’d be funny to spike the fruit punch with some booze, but he had no idea of the grim consequences that decision would have. As a pack of hopeful seniors slowly lined up near the punch to fill their cups, the bowl heated up and exploded from the liquored-up fruity concoction, and sharp glass fragments shot across the room. While girls in heels danced away to Taylor Swift’s latest bop, one piece of glass went straight into my spinal cord. Nearly every student on line for punch was permanently disabled that night. When it comes to disability, punch lines aren’t funny. Steve... let's run away together.
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Post by SouthernCalGal on Oct 28, 2019 17:49:08 GMT -5
I have to jump in and say I am a sensitive person. I don't think its okay. Because, somewhere, someone can get really hurt by it. Also, somewhere, there is a mom of a disabled child that will hear that joke and try and protect their child and fear for their child in the harsh, cruel, real world. For PWDs - a lot of trauma existed for other people involved in your life because of your injury or diagnosis. Hearts were broken...lives turned upside down. Jokes can sometimes be a cruel reminder - just my humble opinion. And, not wanting to get political, but there was a presidential candidate that made fun of a reporter in a crass way - making fun of his disability. It just looked so ugly, uneducated and childish when he did it. Jokes, making fun of people who have disabilities or ailments beyond their control...not my gig. There are too many other things in life to laugh about than to make jokes about disabled people. P.S. If sy or any other disabled comedian feels that it is necessary in their routine - that's on them and their right. I just wouldn't laugh if I was a part of the audience - I'd find it insensitive. And...I'm not prudish - I've seen and enjoyed myself at numerous blue comedy shows (even went out on a couple of dates with a popular comedian ). I just draw the line with disability - its probably the damn dev in me !
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Post by Manda2212 on Oct 28, 2019 18:29:25 GMT -5
I wholeheartedly disagree with SouthernCalGal, not that that will come as a shock to most of you. I feel like for the most part, comedy should be left alone. If it is policed too much or becomes too "societally aware" then it dies. Comedy is an art form, after all and art is (or should be) left to the artist to decide what is acceptable or not. They, in turn, as an adult, must deal with the potential consequences of doing their art how they see fit. Thinking of the dude who played that dude in Seinfeld and his n-word rant that one time. If a comedian were to sit down to write a skit and account for every person's emotions before they write, what the heck is there left to write about? Sunshine and roses? That would lead to some pretty pathetic and unfunny "comedy." Comedians have always been known for being boundary pushers. I am a strong advocate for just not making yourself an audience to people you disagree with. I very much dislike specific brands of comedy but I don't for a second think they shouldn't exist for there ARE people who find them funny as hell. Instead, I choose to not watch their Netflix special, etc.
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Post by Tek on Oct 28, 2019 18:56:03 GMT -5
A short while ago I was waiting at one of two disabled bathrooms in our office building. Someone had occupied it so I was chilling, reading on my phone. A colleague of mine, one of two other disabled colleagues, rolled up and started complaining about how "there's always some one in there" and "they should never use that bathroom". I replied by saying something along the lines of "perhaps the regular bathroom was full? It's fine with me either way... I'm sitting so I won't get tired" the dude didn't appreciate my joke and rolled off, seemingly annoyed.
I'm pretty sure that it was just the really bad joke that made him leave. But perhaps I actually offended him somehow...
To answer this a bit more seriously: I think it's okay to make fun of yourself or your situation... in any situation. I think it's okay to make fun of disabled people that I know personally (and I know can appreciate the joke). I think it's okay to joke about anything, as long as it is done with the right intentions.
I think there's a difference between joking about a disability, and punching down to try and score points over the back of someone else.
I have no tolerance for anyone who attempts to punch down at anyone. That's just being an asshole. As long as that's not not the case, I'm fine with anything else.
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