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Post by Dr. BiPAP Sachin on Mar 31, 2022 18:33:39 GMT -5
I've seen claims/dreams like this design for years. Like supposed promising cures to our various disabilities, I'll believe it when I see it This is exactly how I actually feel. Talk and imagery is BS without concrete action, and the pros and cons to be considered.
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Post by blueskye101 on Sept 11, 2022 18:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by darthoso on Sept 11, 2022 18:26:31 GMT -5
Maybe because of SMA I have a bad understanding of concepts like material strength vs force, but... how do you do that, like physics wise.
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Post by Dr. BiPAP Sachin on Sept 11, 2022 18:53:49 GMT -5
This is yet another reason for me not to fly. Seriously, when the fuck are airlines going to get their act together and consider a way for some wheelers to sit in their wheelchairs during flights, instead of said wheelchairs being shoved into goddamn storage?! Sorry for my profanity, but this crap makes me grit my teeth with seething rage!!
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Post by outofsight on Sept 12, 2022 5:09:26 GMT -5
I can relate - some years ago my 'poor' push chair, simple manual wheelchair that we use for sightseeing with a carer, hardly survived the drop to the luggage conveyor belt. We asked to collect it directly after we got off the plane... instead it ''flew'' out, in bubble wrap, from the hole where some of the giant suitcases landed too. Wow! Aaero-chair...? Seriously, it was miraculous that it only had one scratch on it.
Josh
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Post by someonerandom on Sept 12, 2022 9:03:03 GMT -5
I can relate - some years ago my 'poor' push chair, simple manual wheelchair that we use for sightseeing with a carer, hardly survived the drop to the luggage conveyor belt. We asked to collect it directly after we got off the plane... instead it ''flew'' out, in bubble wrap, from the hole where some of the giant suitcases landed too. Wow! Aaero-chair...? Seriously, it was miraculous that it only had one scratch on it.
Josh Is this post a role play? I thought before you said you don’t pretend in real life.
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Post by IcarusFellOnce on Sept 12, 2022 15:29:53 GMT -5
This is yet another reason for me not to fly. Seriously, when the fuck are airlines going to get their act together and consider a way for some wheelers to sit in their wheelchairs during flights, instead of said wheelchairs being shoved into goddamn storage?! Sorry for my profanity, but this crap makes me grit my teeth with seething rage!! They won't until we start actively working together as a community to make them hear us! Given different political viewpoints, personal beliefs, and wealth we seem to be the most desperate of communities. (IMO) I have been working with airport and coalition of orgs and advocates here in Colorado to make sure they are considering access when investing millions of infrastructure dollars they are receiving from federal government. And although we had some growing pains and conflicts at the start, they are finally moving forward in good faith with transparency and accountability. Helps that our state law makers have threatened to run bills mandating access with liability attached for accountability if they do not move forward and stay true to timeline of access they have committed to. THAT BEING SAID.. biggest issue is that airlines and airports create a circular firing squad of responsibility and accountability. That has been something we are working through. AND if we are going to reach out and touch the airlines for accessibility accountability, we have to do it on the federal level since Federal Air Carriers Act will NOT allow us to pass any law regulating them on the state level or below. So if PWD's and allies are really interested in working together to make travel more accessible for us, PM me... We're doing great things in Colorado but as I stated.. there are a few areas where we have to act federally. Safe and accessible journeys to all.
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Post by outofsight on Sept 13, 2022 3:37:35 GMT -5
Is this post a role play? I thought before you said you don’t pretend in real life. Hehe, no. Besides being a Biid-er for another type of disability (not wheelchair related), I already have disabilities in real life, most notably a painful degenerative joint disease.
So, bubble wrap story was very real, especially for poor chair.
(But thank you for asking to clarify Someonerandom.)
Josh
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Post by Green on Sept 14, 2022 19:24:46 GMT -5
So if PWD's and allies are really interested in working together to make travel more accessible for us, PM me... We're doing great things in Colorado but as I stated.. there are a few areas where we have to act federally. Safe and accessible journeys to all. Not that this would be easy, but I think the only realistic solution is for airplanes to be built so that you can stay in your wheelchair with all the other seats. Demand for accessibility or liability against airlines won't really change anything when you actually can access a plane. It doesn't matter what you do, putting your wheelchair in storage is the problem. It doesn't matter what you say or do until there is a proper plane. In fact, engineering wise, it really should be no issue to have one or 2 wheelchair slots with secure straps. An airline can be as careful as they want, but damage absolutely will happen no matter what when wheelchairs are not being transported correctly in the first place.
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Post by IcarusFellOnce on Sept 15, 2022 0:55:24 GMT -5
So if PWD's and allies are really interested in working together to make travel more accessible for us, PM me... We're doing great things in Colorado but as I stated.. there are a few areas where we have to act federally. Safe and accessible journeys to all. Not that this would be easy, but I think the only realistic solution is for airplanes to be built so that you can stay in your wheelchair with all the other seats. Demand for accessibility or liability against airlines won't really change anything when you actually can access a plane. It doesn't matter what you do, putting your wheelchair in storage is the problem. It doesn't matter what you say or do until there is a proper plane. In fact, engineering wise, it really should be no issue to have one or 2 wheelchair slots with secure straps. An airline can be as careful as they want, but damage absolutely will happen no matter what when wheelchairs are not being transported correctly in the first place. Don't disagree with you. BUT you call it realistic, I call it ideal... and a solution that would be YEARS off. Secretary of Transpo Buttigieg made an announcement because of the work PVA has done AND because apparently (word on the street) is that one of his staffers lived life in a chair.. that THAT would be the ideal goal. I welcome that. BUT I find it that would be an uphill battle give the loss of revenue on passenger capacity to make room for our chairs. Would regular seats be removable to make room for us? Would there be permanently open spots? How many chairs in a row? If they are removable what happens if the only open seat on a flight is a regular one, we would be barred from booking unless we agreed to sit in a regular chair? In which case they would have to have that infrastructure for loading and unloading a chair still available. Do not misunderstand me. I'm not saying it's justified. I'm just identifying the what of what would make it an uphill battle.
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Post by Dr. BiPAP Sachin on May 12, 2023 11:40:11 GMT -5
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Post by PacMan on May 13, 2023 18:47:16 GMT -5
The idea of being able to sit in my own chair on a flight is nothing but a dream for me. In nearly 50 years being on this earth I’ve only flown twice and both flights were short flights lasting no more than two hours many years ago. As I’ve gotten older and my condition as got worse sitting on a plane even for just two hours is out the window I couldn’t do it these days. Firstly my powerchair is a bespoke chair and the thoughts of flying somewhere far from home for me only to find my chair either smashed to pieces or my chair going missing scares the life out of my. Because of my condition and my chair being a custom-built chair I couldn’t just get into some random off the shelf chair that might be given to me at an airport somewhere. Secondly because I have OI trying to transfer from my chair onto a seat on a plane is pretty dangerous for me because of the cramped conditions, there’s a real possibility I’d only fracture something. Finally even if I did make it onboard a plane and get onto a seat I simply couldn’t sit on it, not even for five minutes because as I’m so small if I’m sitting on a normal sized seat to too long to allow my legs to bed at my knees, this would be just excruciating for me. The only way I can ever see myself being able to get on a plane ever again is if the airlines finally allow PWD to board a plane and remain in your chair. I don’t know why this can’t be done. All that needs to be done is remove the front row of seating and have locking systems built into the floor of the plane and the chair tied down using straps, the kind of straps used to tie down chairs in people’s own personal van or on buses. And before the airline industries start saying how this is too dangerous because of possible leaks from chair batteries they don’t have a leg to stand on as the vast majority (in not all chair these days) or not battery powered by gel batteries. Other than this the idea of being able to ever go on a proper holiday is nothing more than a dream something I don’t think will ever happen in my lifetime because of money.
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Post by aiden on May 31, 2023 18:02:34 GMT -5
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Post by gentlegiant on Nov 22, 2023 15:43:00 GMT -5
Wheelchairusers have been trying for ages to raise awareness about their wheelchairs being broken so often when they fly and the devastating impact this has on them.
American Airlines baggage handlers decided to give a demonstration of how much they enjoy breaking them.
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Post by lavly on Nov 22, 2023 17:22:20 GMT -5
yeah man you need to have the chair in carry on. even then its scary.
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