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Post by kyliestarz on Oct 25, 2019 18:53:39 GMT -5
Check out Squirmy and Grubs on YouTube. Maybe everyone knows about them and I’m late to the party, but I just started watching a few of their videos.
I feel pretty crummy going down this road, but do you think Hannah is a dev?
I really think she is, and not just for the shallow/obvious reason that she’s beautiful and seems to have a great personality, implying she could have her choice in partners, but it’s the little things she says, and how she says them. She’s clearly very much attracted to Shane mentally and physically. And he’s great. But choosing to spend her life with Shane is a BIG commitment, and yet she’s almost perfect, too good to be true in every video..she has to be a dev...or am I just a jealous, cynical, sexually frustrated devotee who spends too much time on YouTube?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2019 19:10:16 GMT -5
Shane has been very well known on youtube for years now, before he met Hannah. Theyve been asked if she is attracted to disability but she totally denies being a dev. I think they just have a good relationship.
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Post by ej on Oct 25, 2019 21:37:17 GMT -5
To be fair, I do know a handful beautiful, successful women who aren’t devs and are with dudes they met post-injury. I think it does happen. 🙃
If she isn’t (which I think is likely), it’s too bad though, us devs can always use some good press! 😉
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Post by feelsunshine on Oct 26, 2019 10:31:21 GMT -5
someone posted about them in another thread, so I knew about them, watched a few videos. However, his disability is not on my "list", so I don't follow them or anything. Honestly however, I almost can't believe she's not a dev. What about the idea that she probably doesn't want to spread it out into the open www?
A really nice couple (for me) to watch is "Positively Paralyzed" if you want to check them out. I don't know if she's a dev. But it doesn't matter to me, the two of them are an awesome couple I think.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2019 16:18:18 GMT -5
Cute couple, it would be kind of cool if she would be a dev and be open about it as a positive representation but I understand that it's a big deal and if she wouldn't want it to be outed. Then again, there are women who are not devs and with PWD so it's not a given that any woman with a PWD is a dev
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Post by kyliestarz on Oct 26, 2019 22:28:28 GMT -5
I know plenty of non-dev women fall in love with pwds, and that’s really not my point, it’s that Hannah is so positive and almost keen about every aspect of Shane that makes me wonder. I just can’t imagine a non-dev having that kind of glow and keenness so consistently in different environments, etc. Like she’s so confident and sure in how she feels it’s incredible. The only thing that would allow me to be that way would be my devness, and even then I’m probably not strong enough.
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Post by kyliestarz on Dec 11, 2019 23:28:58 GMT -5
sugarmag those are good points. Yeah unless she comes out, it’s impossible to really know. And at this point it would be extremely hard for her to come out. Sigh...It would be nice to have a public dev like her out there though. Imagine if someone really famous and strong came out as a vocal dev, like a celebrity or a musician. But with squirmy and grubs, if you HAD to bet one way or another, and we’re all basically going off feel I assume, what would you bet? I’d say she’s a dev. There’s just something there. There’s something in the subtleties that doesn’t add up. Big picture I get, a beautiful non-dev with a pwd makes perfect sense, it’s the subtleties of her behaviour and what/how she says it. Sorry I’m such a suspicious grinch!
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Post by devogirl on Dec 12, 2019 0:31:32 GMT -5
Imagine if someone really famous and strong came out as a vocal dev, like a celebrity or a musician.
It's already happened, sort of. Russell Brand is almost certainly a dev although he hasn't exactly come out proudly, more like hinting creepily. He's not the kind of representation we need. Sadly it's more likely to be a gross dude with no inhibitions who talks about it first, not someone we female devs can look at as a role model.
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Post by myrrh on Dec 12, 2019 1:46:06 GMT -5
Oh gosh, really? That makes sense to me actually, I saw a series of interviews he did with a young female journalist who had pretty severe CP. He was all over her, touching her and leaning on her and holding her hands. It looked like she was having a blast, so that's nice, but his behavior was really... notable.
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Post by kyliestarz on Dec 13, 2019 22:29:26 GMT -5
devogirl myrrh I watched the interview he did with the journalist. While it’s certainly not run-of-the-mill behaviour, I get the feeling he’s more trying to deliberately push limits, and show that he’s such a ‘free’ thinker that he can completely and overtly embrace something that makes other people awkward. Except in this instance the notes he strikes come across as pretty creepy. This is just my initial interpretation, and I’ve only seen this one video related to Brand and disability, and obviously I don’t have much conviction, just the feeling I get. Are there other instances where he’s hinting at devoteeism?
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Post by devogirl on Dec 14, 2019 0:13:38 GMT -5
It wasn't that interview but a different one. I can't remember the details now but a few years ago he broke up with a girlfriend and said some shitty things about her in interviews, including that she was into disabled guys. But the way he said it, it was clear that he was projecting his own desires onto her. I think there was some other stuff too but I can't recall the specifics, sorry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2019 0:18:34 GMT -5
I seem to remember something about him and Katie Perry...that something slipped about his liking certain types of sexual games including wheelchairs and such...
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Post by kyliestarz on Dec 14, 2019 12:29:44 GMT -5
Yeah Google helped. There are a few disability-related things on him that are definitely eyebrow raising. A bunch of videos where he’s quite physical and flirtatious with female pwd strangers, the Katie Perry wheelchair stuff, and he seems to make quite a few out-there jokes about disability.
It’s funny, in my mind I have this completely unrealistic idea/belief that lots of people are actually devs, they just haven’t embraced it or let it out or whatever. Sorta like the idea that all people have bisexual characteristics deep down, which I definitely find plausible. But I know it’s almost certainly not the case with devness (just maybe though!?!)
I only have that hope because I’m a dev, and because it’s so very fundamental to my outlook, I assume everybody must have a little bit of something similar. It would only be natural to cling to that hope.
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Post by kyliestarz on Dec 14, 2019 12:40:18 GMT -5
Like for example, on the rare occasions I talk about my devness with the friend I’m out with, I start feeling and getting this thought about her that’s like “come on, you’re a dev too, just admit it, I know you find this DAK hottttt. Just let it loose”. I know this is most certainly not the case, but every time I find myself almost believing it, in the moment, and then I usually end up taking things a little too far, saying something to devvy and she gives me this awkward smile because she doesn’t get it all.
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Post by devogirl on Dec 15, 2019 3:26:00 GMT -5
It’s funny, in my mind I have this completely unrealistic idea/belief that lots of people are actually devs, they just haven’t embraced it or let it out or whatever. Sorta like the idea that all people have bisexual characteristics deep down, which I definitely find plausible. But I know it’s almost certainly not the case with devness (just maybe though!?!) Well both can be true. There are certainly quite a few female devs who are not self-aware. I think that is a big part of the reason why it seems there are a lot more male devs than female devs. On the other hand, even if all those devs were able to admit it to themselves, we would still be a very small percentage of the general population.
It's also not that uncommon for devs who are deeply in the closet to deny it loudly, talk about how weird and gross it is, and project it onto other people. Same with homophobes, sometimes the loudest anti-gay crusader is the person who is running from themselves. Back before we enforced membership rules here, a woman joined who said she was not a dev but married to a para, and went on and on about what bad people we are. I found out later she was a closet dev. Shame makes people do some really fucked up things.
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