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Post by masterchief on Feb 4, 2022 14:55:57 GMT -5
I am not really bothered by the word 'Crippled' but if you'd ask me if I have any bias towards a certain word, well yes.
I like to use 'Differently Abled' instead of 'Disabled' or 'Crippled', because of only one reason.
'Differently Abled' has a more optimistic meaning to it, whereas other words sound a bit pessimistic, other than that nothing else.
That being said, I don't find words like 'Disabled' or 'Crippled' derogatory or anything and I don't care what word anyone would use to refer to me.
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Post by someonerandom on Feb 4, 2022 16:53:24 GMT -5
I am not a fan of word policing people in any way. I would rather people focus on lifestyle-altering issues (employment, dating, friends, TRANSPORTATION, having my pants on each day). These wording debates in the disabled world only distract from the energy and resources needed to make real progress. You really think it takes that much energy for people to use different words? I agree it’s not a priority, but words do matter and it’s possible to do more than one thing at a time.
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Post by infinatedreams on Feb 4, 2022 17:52:29 GMT -5
I know im one of the 'oldies' and maybe in old fashioned but I much prefer to address others by their name and also be addressed by my name and not be lablelled with whatever is deemed the most 'accpetable' tag at the time.
It is much easier to refer to someone by their name, its personable, considerate and very much unlikley to offend.
Sure within the bedroom and between lovers words and names may be used (in the moment or scenario) as long as thats consentual then coolio I could live with that.
But anywhere else nah ...
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Post by Taurean on Feb 7, 2022 19:23:47 GMT -5
Words have power, and they reflect and reinforce cultural beliefs. Personally I’ve always disliked the word in all its forms (“crippling anxiety”, etc), though I understand the attempts to reclaim it. I hear it in popular movies and tv ALL THE TIME, referring to PWD. Often I can’t tell if the writers are ignorant or trying to be edgy. I don’t think most people get how it sounds to many of us.
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Post by Blindhapa on Feb 7, 2022 20:00:25 GMT -5
I have grown used to hearing "blind" to the point that I just use it to describe myself, rather than the now more in-vogue words and phrases such as "visually impaired", "unsighted", "sightless", visionless", etc. Since I am actually totally without any ability to see whatsoever, "blind" is the most descriptive. In any case, "blind" does not bother me in the least. However, I can understand how most PWDs don't care for the word "cripple", as it seems to be inappropriately suggestive of helplessness.
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Post by outofsight on Aug 3, 2022 5:24:02 GMT -5
I only tolerate 'crippled' when I use it myself for my own self, usually when I make a sarcastic joke about my own life ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) (I have multiple invisible disabilities and one that makes me having to use some visible aids.) Or sometimes between myself and another disabled person if we both like sarcasm and joking about like that. Once a very old lady called me an invalid, when she saw me with my walking equipment. That was... like attending an archaeological dig, too old way of saying it, I tried not to laugh out loud.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2022 12:54:52 GMT -5
I personally find it hilarious to refer to myself as a cripple and use it sarcastically or as a joke. I even use it for some of my usernames. I have always felt like being able to joke about my disability was a positive. But I agree it depends on context/situation, who is using the word, and what their intentions are when using the word whether saying it to me or not.
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Post by outofsight on Aug 14, 2022 9:58:01 GMT -5
I have always felt like being able to joke about my disability was a positive. I'm totally with you on that Adn - it can save so many situations ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) (I mean the mood).
These days I tend to drop more and more things because of my finger-joints and if I couldn't come up with some funny comments about those incidents (at least to myself) I think my days would be more dull and difficult.
Thanks for sharing, mate.
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Post by ED-T4 on Aug 14, 2022 10:45:48 GMT -5
I personally find it hilarious to refer to myself as a cripple and use it sarcastically or as a joke. I even use it for some of my usernames. I have always felt like being able to joke about my disability was a positive. But I agree it depends on context/situation, who is using the word, and what their intentions are when using the word whether saying it to me or not. I agree with adn, my friends and I use it with each other all the time. The word only bothers me if I allow it to bother me. Regardless of the context, it is offensive to me only if I let it be.
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Post by MotorcycleCrash on Aug 15, 2022 0:11:40 GMT -5
I personally find it hilarious to refer to myself as a cripple and use it sarcastically or as a joke. I even use it for some of my usernames. I have always felt like being able to joke about my disability was a positive. But I agree it depends on context/situation, who is using the word, and what their intentions are when using the word whether saying it to me or not. Same here, my username is Cripple Dan on twitter. My brothers and I joke with using cripple all the time. I don't get offended by terms but I would be surprised if someone in public called me a cripple. Mostly because they avoid any eye contact with me, and the ones that do approach try to shake my hand and don't know what to say… other than something like "it's great to see you out" (which I find more offensive, LOL) Maybe I could see ABs using it in a joke when cripples aren't around, but I wouldn't really care especially if it was funny.
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Post by ruetheday on Aug 15, 2022 0:20:01 GMT -5
I grew up going to "The Shriners Hospitals for Handicapped Children". Since then, the term "handicapped" fell out of vogue.
As I understand, the term emerged from a game called "hand in cap" to describe a disadvantage, and has continued to be used in this context for other games, such as golf. "Hand in cap" did NOT imply begging, as is often claimed. Again, it was derived from a game.
The accepted word for a long time has been "disabled". I use that term in public because it makes other people feel more comfortable, but I don't like it. In Latin, "disabled" roughly means "badly abled" or "not able". That's kind of insulting and reductive, to make a blanket insinuation that a person is completely incapable just because they have some limitations.
I'm a lot more comfortable with language which suggests that I have a disadvantage than a term suggesting that I'm just incapable, period. In private, I prefer to say that I have handicaps.
I don't think words are the main issue, though. A bigger priority for me is visibility. Talking about disability is taboo. Showing people with disabilities in mainstream entertainment and media is a taboo. If a character does have a disability, it's often preferable to hire an able-bodied actor for the part (and sometimes spending a fortune on CGI to remove limbs). And then, when it comes to human rights activism for marginalized groups, it seems to be a pattern to not include PWDs. We're either forgotten or excluded, like we don't count as people who deserve rights, visibility, and inclusion.
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Post by outofsight on Aug 15, 2022 3:53:16 GMT -5
I'm a lot more comfortable with language which suggests that I have a disadvantage than a term suggesting that I'm just incapable, period. In private, I prefer to say that I have handicaps. The same here Ruetheday, but where I live (UK) support workers often insist on you saying 'disabled person' when you talk about yourself to show that it's society who is disabling you, so they recommend it that you use that even instead of saying 'I am a PWD'. My disabilities do have a serious impact on my life but they are all invisible, except one when I am having a physically weaker day, and I also don't feel that I want to be 'at war with society' every day ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) So I tend to say that I have such and such impairments or sometimes use PWD but yeah, time to time I miss handicapped as that was still in use when I was growing up.
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Post by ruetheday on Aug 15, 2022 12:14:07 GMT -5
I'm a lot more comfortable with language which suggests that I have a disadvantage than a term suggesting that I'm just incapable, period. In private, I prefer to say that I have handicaps. The same here Ruetheday, but where I live (UK) support workers often insist on you saying 'disabled person' when you talk about yourself to show that it's society who is disabling you, so they recommend it that you use that even instead of saying 'I am a PWD'. My disabilities do have a serious impact on my life but they are all invisible, except one when I am having a physically weaker day, and I also don't feel that I want to be 'at war with society' every day ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) So I tend to say that I have such and such impairments or sometimes use PWD but yeah, time to time I miss handicapped as that was still in use when I was growing up. Josh
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Post by Green on Aug 15, 2022 19:15:41 GMT -5
I'm a lot more comfortable with language which suggests that I have a disadvantage than a term suggesting that I'm just incapable, period. In private, I prefer to say that I have handicaps. The same here Ruetheday, but where I live (UK) support workers often insist on you saying 'disabled person' when you talk about yourself to show that it's society who is disabling you, so they recommend it that you use that even instead of saying 'I am a PWD'. My disabilities do have a serious impact on my life but they are all invisible, except one when I am having a physically weaker day, and I also don't feel that I want to be 'at war with society' every day ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) So I tend to say that I have such and such impairments or sometimes use PWD Do you mean something like autism? That's usually what I think of when I hear invisible disability. But PWD conveys usually something like deafness, blindness, or physical disability. It sounds really disingenuous when you say this, or at least, no, the word crippled doesn't refer to invisible disabilities.
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Post by Sova on Jun 25, 2024 21:04:07 GMT -5
I once hosted a 40th birthday party at my place in which things definitely got colourful. Some of the guys had called a couple of escorts to come and join the party, albeit on a superficial level (no sex, just lap dances and general company). One was called on accident by one of the escorts already here who was not asked for, and so I had to meet her in the hallway and convey to her that she was called by mistake.
At first, she was being graceful and kind, trying to persuade me to let her join the party. I politely let her know that the girl that called her did so on accident and that she wouldn’t be joining. Once she realized that I wasn’t budging from my position, she flipped a switch and went street rage on me. She slammed her two middle fingers right up in my face and called me a “fucking cripple” before getting in the elevator and repeating until the doors closed.
It was the first time I had ever been hit with the word as an intentional slur/attack in my entire para life. No lie, I’ve always thought that it would have a certain degree of impact on me; that it would cut. But I just laughed and felt no way about it. It was so obvious that she was just lashing out in a petulant manner because she didn’t get her way.
The word itself is meaningless and completely powerless unless you cede that authority unto the user
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