wheelz1979
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Feb 24, 2015 11:04:38 GMT -5
Post by wheelz1979 on Feb 24, 2015 11:04:38 GMT -5
How accessible and fun is cruises for us wheelers? I'm wanting to go on one but not sure.
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Post by Tek on Feb 24, 2015 11:15:38 GMT -5
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cooks
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Post by cooks on Feb 24, 2015 21:59:43 GMT -5
That's rude. Everyone obviously knows how to use google, he doesn't snark advice. I assume, wheelz1979, that you were looking for the advice of disabled people who have been on cruises. Unfortunately, I have none to give. I just didn't want this thread to die because I'm interested too. Have any of you guys been on cruises? Did you have any problems?
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Post by Maurine on Feb 25, 2015 4:17:25 GMT -5
Cruises are on top of my travel list. I haven't been on a cruise yet, but I'll share some results of my research on this.
American shipping companies are generally more accessible than European ones.
Unless you don't mind staying on board during the shore leaves, before booking a cruise, first check if the ship docks directly at the port at most stops. If it doesn't, the passengers have to get to the port in a smaller, inaccessible boat. Royal Caribbean offers lifts for wheelers to get into these boats, but they're only used under favourable weather conditions, and they might be restricted to manual chairs.
Costa cruises now offer disabled people to bring along a companion for free if he or she shares his or her cabin. The companion still has to pay for the extra costs like drinks.
It is sometimes encouraged to use a manual chair in favour of a power chair, because the corridors are relatively narrow.
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Feb 25, 2015 9:26:18 GMT -5
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Post by Emma on Feb 25, 2015 9:26:18 GMT -5
I don't mind being the bitch.
think tek's response was appropriate. Let's get back to talking about devotees sexual attraction to physically disabled men. We don't need to make this a website where disabled guys come for disability related advice especially if it's something easily googled.
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Post by Tek on Feb 25, 2015 11:39:04 GMT -5
Uh oh, I have been slightly misunderstood I don't have so much of a problem with the topic of conversation, but more with the amount of work put into the request. The fact that Cooks had to "assume it's about gaining advice from people who have been on cruises" is evidence to that. If the OP had taken more than 15 seconds to make the post, I'd have left it alone. But as it stands, effort like that should be rewarded with similar effort. "Hi guys, I've been looking into taking a cruise, and I was wondering if any of you have ever been on one, and if so, what were your experiences like, from a accessibility standpoint?"
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Post by Emma on Feb 25, 2015 11:57:10 GMT -5
See tek we are on the same page. The short, off topic posts by dudes who rarely participate in the discussions are in my opinion the worst, and most apt to get a slightly rude response from me.
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cooks
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Feb 25, 2015 12:01:54 GMT -5
Post by cooks on Feb 25, 2015 12:01:54 GMT -5
Tek, Emma- Well in that sense I agree.
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Feb 25, 2015 21:05:11 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 21:05:11 GMT -5
I think it's a great topic, tbh. And yes, one can Google many things related to this. But even though this is (or appears to be) a dating forum of sorts, once we get into our relationships, that doesn't mean that we don't need advice on this or that from other disabled folks or the people that love them. Life isn't strictly about courting the fairer gender, whichever one that might be for us. As for the fact that the OP is new, I get that, and I think I agree with that gripe a bit. But I hadn't even noticed he was new until it was pointed out. Having said all that, I went on my first cruise back in March. It was from Port Canaveral, FL, to St. Thomas (USVI), and St. Maarten. It was a spina bifida group on Royal Caribbean's Freedom of The Seas. It was publicized on Facebook, if I remember, by an agency co-owned by an amputee from Texas, called Easy Access Travel. Facebook: www.facebook.com/easyaccesstravelI don't regret going at all. It could have been better, but it was pretty good. The problem was, I am on crutches, and to go longer distances, I do need to sit. So I rented a scooter. It worked phenomenally well on the ship. However, the taxis at both ports were unable to accomodate a scooter. If I had brought a manual wheelchair, things would have been fine. Both ports have a shopping area right next o them, and so I had to stay at those areas rather than go on any taxi tours. Also, I had a crash on the scooter. Getting back from St. Thomas, as I rode up the gangway, my scooter flipped, and I hit my head. The first floor of that 13(?) floor ship is an infirmary, and staff from it came out to the accident scene to assess me. It was a very good situation from that standpoint. I felt safe, even having had that accident. I'd look into doing this. I just did it out of curiosity. Frankly, I don't like warm weather, but I do like to travel, and what scenery I saw was absolutely lovely.
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Feb 26, 2015 2:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by hanabanana on Feb 26, 2015 2:32:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 5:19:45 GMT -5
I don't mind being the bitch. think tek's response was appropriate. Let's get back to talking about devotees sexual attraction to physically disabled men. We don't need to make this a website where disabled guys come for disability related advice especially if it's something easily googled. Holy double standards Batman! How does your thread: paradevo.proboards.com/thread/6186/commercially-available-power-wheelchairs-kids relate to devotees sexual attraction to physically disabled men? Let's cut a guy some slack... As to your question... I took a cruise in a power chair... I think it was Carnival. I couldn't get off the boat at 2 of the 4 stops as they didn't have the means to safely off load me. Other than that it was a pretty good time.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Feb 26, 2015 9:44:51 GMT -5
Lol... I'm going to join in... Emma has 2,882 posts... she makes ONE thread that's off topic(ish) and it will forever be used as an example of hypocrisy because she regularly posts griping about off topic stuff. That post is 0.03% of what she's posted. I don't know what the percentage of her... "that's off topic, you can find better info elsewhere" would be. Far, far higher, I'm sure. And I'm not interested in counting them. I'm also sure that my percentage of off-topicness is much higher. I am, after all, the originator of the infamous "Videos of Whatever" thread. Which actually was on topic at one time because it was an interaction with one of the other members that made me mourn the death of my feminism.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 13:23:45 GMT -5
I wouldn't have normally said boo to Emma or anyone else that makes an off topic thread. So, if you have x amount of productive posts it's ok to post off topic? Who decides if you've reached x? Or is it ok for devs to post off topic but not pwd's? Maybe you should be here a certain amount of time before you can post off topic? Who decides? I'm pretty sure Devogirl has spoken authoritatively on the topic. I'm a believer that hypocrisy is hypocrisy... If you're going to aggressively jump down someone's throat that is minding their own business... for posting something harmless..albeit annoying to some... you probably shouldn't be be doing the same thing...in the same time frame. I would guess that IQ-wise...on PD, anyway, I'm in the lower 50th percentile. When I read a title that says 1965 Volkswagen van for sale...I simply don't read it. If the title says 'Hello Ladies' I don't read it. If the originator of the thread historically posts rubbish... I don't read it. Why can't we all do that? As other's have said... if nobody replies...the thread goes away...in a day usually. I'm not looking to have people take my side...or anyone else's side. There is enough division and unnecessary conflict on PD right now. I know that comes and goes...but why not pro-actively work on reducing it?
I'm not looking to be popular, or have people like my post... I'm just tired of what seems to be people who just can't wait to jump some unsuspecting newbie... How about a thoughtful pm to one of these offenders? I'm not a part of the Old Guard here... I'm not looking to be. As far as my off-topic threads, or ones that annoyed people... I don't think I've had that many. I will be the first to admit that I did jump one guy in my time here that probably didn't deserve it. It was some guy that had never posted anything since I had been here...then all of a sudden he's the world's most talented musician, an angel incarnate in a disabled body, and the long-awaited for, Jewish messiah...plus he was running for president. I got tired of his self-promotion...especially since I'd never seen him contribute anything else to the board/community. I should have just ignored him...maybe he would have become a productive member one day. I certainly could've and should've... unfortunately I must have been having a bad day...that was a few years ago... I think. Besides a few ruffled feathers when Paraplegic Pro was doing a little self-promotion...and I didn't realize that he was active on the board...and contributing...to which I immediately publically apologized... I think I have been a very ''Live and let live'' member here.
I don't gossip about people, I don't spread rumors, I don't make up rumors about anyone. I don't pretend to be someone's friend so that I can get information that will amaze and thrill the other backstabbers and gossipers. I don't get involved in other people's relationships... or tell people that they should avoid this person or that person. To me that shit is despicable... I have no respect for people like that... I have been known to stand up to people that decide that they want to go after me....even though they've done equal things...or in my case...far worse. If creating division and conflict on PD has become your hobby...it's probably time to pick up quilting... or start your own message board where that stuff is embraced.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Feb 26, 2015 13:40:34 GMT -5
I've pissed you off, I guess.
It wasn't about... hey, once you post 500, you get to do 3 off topic posts. It was more about, hey, you fuck up once and it's all anybody talks about. :)Like FOREVER. (That particular thread has been pulled out 2 or 3 times, already.)
But, yeah, got it. Mistakes not acceptable except for people who have less than... idk... 200 posts?
Oh, and Presidential Candidate Musician totally deserved it.
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Post by Emma on Feb 26, 2015 14:30:08 GMT -5
Holy double standards Batman! How does your thread: paradevo.proboards.com/thread/6186/commercially-available-power-wheelchairs-kids relate to devotees sexual attraction to physically disabled men? Let's cut a guy some slack... As to your question... I took a cruise in a power chair... I think it was Carnival. I couldn't get off the boat at 2 of the 4 stops as they didn't have the means to safely off load me. Other than that it was a pretty good time. Woah ok let me see if I can explain this simply and repeat a bit of what I just said in another thread. I think its different if you are a contributing member who knows the vibe of the board and posts off topic things. Like I said before, I didn't say anything about the SMA nail cutting/pubic hair shaving thread. The OP doesn't know the vibe of the board. Look at his past posts. Most of them are just one word, "welcome". To me it seems he is here for one reason, to find a dev. I'm not sure, but this thread he stated seems just like a different take on trying to find a dev. Maybe he is considering a cruise and doesn't mind getting some info but if he was really looking for info about accessible cruises he would not have come here for it, he would have googled it. I have a big issue with dudes using this place as a dating site. I want the guys who are here to contribute to the discussions. Ask about devs, share their thoughts participate in the stuff that relates to devs. Like so many others have said in the past few days. This is the only place for female devs to come and talk about our attraction. I feel strongly about keeping this a place we can do that and not turn it into something else.
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