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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 23:06:59 GMT -5
So BBC recently released a documentary about devotees and I am not sure how I feel about it. If you haven't already, you should check it out
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Post by Justagirl on Mar 11, 2016 23:24:39 GMT -5
This has been shared and discussed on other sites and I think it is worth mentioning that it has received controversial feedback so far. I've heard that it is one of the more dev positive films out there, (personally I don't go looking) however it is still not dev-favorable at all IMO. Just a fair warning to anyone that may be sensitive to that kind of thing. On a positive note, there is an interview with someone who is a member here.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 23:27:27 GMT -5
Did you notice this website is on the show? Just a nano-second flash.
Do we have a spy among us?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 23:29:56 GMT -5
There is an interview with someone who is a member here. Who who who who? |
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Post by benquad on Mar 12, 2016 0:13:02 GMT -5
In my opinion, this video was educational but also a bit one sided. They did not interview any male PWD or even a person that'd had a positive experience with a devotee. I'm a big proponent of looking at both sides of any issue and feel that fear played a role in the main character's perception of devotees. I'm betting many men (myself included) & women have had positive experiences with a dev and it's a shame that wasn't discussed.
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Post by Justagirl on Mar 12, 2016 0:33:55 GMT -5
There is an interview with someone who is a member here. Who who who who? Well...... she did not hide her face so I assume it is not a secret.... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 1:32:48 GMT -5
Actually I couldn't watch it till the end. I totally agree with benquad It is one sided and if a non-dev watched it they would have a horrible impression. I think of myself. I am a nice, caring, loving family woman. I have a kind heart and I do NOT want to watch weird videos of disabled guys transferring all the time and getting turned on by it, nor would I ask them to make one for me if we actually chatted (and I will not go into mire perverted details) Well this documentary sure made me seem like one, so much that now I would never say I am a dev. Maybe we "normal" devs should think of an alternative name for ourselves. Didn't ANYone have a positive experience? Didn't any PWD say it was amazing to find someone to love all of them instead of "despite" the disability? |
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Post by Hopper on Mar 12, 2016 2:35:02 GMT -5
Pure crap. Mind you, I wouldn't expect anything less from the BBC these days.
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Post by Ath on Mar 12, 2016 3:21:01 GMT -5
I wish Ruth had told us she was doing the interview But she hasn't been around for months. Rant: About being "dev positive"... it would be one sided to only do a dev positive "documentary", since there are people who DO have negative experiences. But a creep is a creep is a creep... Not-so-creepy devs have no real reason to contact random disabled people... so the random disabled people don't really get to know non-creepy devs... |
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Post by kat on Mar 12, 2016 3:44:57 GMT -5
I hate to think of young devs stumbling upon something like this and hearing them described as sick and creepy. This even made me feel guilty as hell, after years of quite peaceful acceptance. :/
Creeps do exist, but I wish people could differentiate between being a dev and being creepy. These things always make it sound like being a dev somehow equals creepy behavior.
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Post by Tek on Mar 12, 2016 5:39:45 GMT -5
Perhaps it's time for a splinter movement. The "united-front-against-negative-portrayal-of-devs" group.
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Post by lisa on Mar 12, 2016 6:12:26 GMT -5
Oh well. There will be thousands of people watching this who never heard of devotees before and after watching they are convinced that we are the most creepy guys ever. I do not understand how a TV station can broadcast a documentary on such a topic with having people cry about the existence of devotees in it and without sincerely showing that there are also disabled people who celebrate having a devotee in their lives. To be honest, I am a bit relieved it's in English, so my family or friends who know about my devness won't accidently stumble upon it. People tend to believe a lot of what is said in the media :-(.
And on a second note, I have to express something again. I'm always grateful for that, but after watching something like this, even more: It's so great to have you all around here, all the devs who develop a positive group feeling about devness and all the disabled guys who accept it and may also be glad that there are devs who find them attractive and interesting on a higher level than pity and inspiration. Hugs to all of you!
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Post by kat on Mar 12, 2016 7:35:42 GMT -5
And on a second note, I have to express something again. I'm always grateful for that, but after watching something like this, even more: It's so great to have you all around here, all the devs who develop a positive group feeling about devness and all the disabled guys who accept it and may also be glad that there are devs who find them attractive and interesting on a higher level than pity and inspiration. Hugs to all of you! Seconded. This community really is invaluable. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2016 7:38:13 GMT -5
@tykes thank you
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Post by Hopper on Mar 12, 2016 9:00:42 GMT -5
It's funny cause it's true. I can imagine that's exactly how the pitch went down. The BBC don't handle the subject of Disability very well at all in my view, always focusing on the negative side it seems, or if they do try and be positive, it just turns into inspiration porn.
Heck, they lack the simple respect and decency to refer to PWDS as 'Disabled People' which to me, puts the illness first and personality second. A somewhat antiquated way to view the world.
Put the person first, it really isn't that hard.
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