ynwa
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Post by ynwa on Dec 27, 2016 21:27:32 GMT -5
I'll jump in and put myself out there. I'm 27, have a PoliSci degree, and want to be a lawyer. Unlike most of my peers though, I have no interest in making money beyond what is necessary to live. Whenever they tell me they want to go into corporate law it makes me wonder why and if they even know why they want to be a lawyer. I want to actually help people that can't get the help they need.
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Post by matisse on Dec 28, 2016 15:07:24 GMT -5
Unlike most of my peers though, I have no interest in making money beyond what is necessary to live. Whenever they tell me they want to go into corporate law it makes me wonder why and if they even know why they want to be a lawyer. Unfortunately for a lot of us cripples, the amount of money necessary can be quite high. I don't even know what "corporate law" means, it's such a generic phrase. Your peers who use that term probably don't know what they actually want to do. |
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Post by ynwa on Dec 28, 2016 18:31:19 GMT -5
Yeah, I think they're just in law school because they want to please their parents or feel important. Either that or they have no soul.
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Post by lavly on Dec 28, 2016 18:43:01 GMT -5
This notion that ppl who look for jobs that pay well have no souls is so offensive to me.
Its the taxes of a money hungry lawyer that pays for your education and so it should ( i m as big of a socialist as the next guy).
so i say don't bite the hand that has fed you mate.
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ynwa
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Post by ynwa on Dec 28, 2016 19:26:32 GMT -5
This notion that ppl who look for jobs that pay well have no souls is so offensive to me. Its the taxes of a money hungry lawyer that pays for your education and so it should ( i m as big of a socialist as the next guy). so i say don't bite the hand that has fed you mate. I never said anything about making good money. I said corporate law. You can make really good money being a civil rights lawyer. It's not about money, but who you're helping and what they're doing. And I don't know where you're from, but education ain't free or cheap over. The quality of your kids' school depends on how rich your community is and the richer you are the more tax breaks you get... mate. |
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Post by matisse on Dec 28, 2016 19:47:06 GMT -5
the richer you are the more tax breaks you get This is true only for the absolute richest, like hedge fund managers, Warren Buffet, and actors who get goat farms. For most of the top 1%, this is not true and they pay close to half of all federal income tax. |
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Post by lavly on Dec 28, 2016 20:32:56 GMT -5
i live in a Australia and education, for the most part is payed by the tax payer  mate |
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Post by ynwa on Dec 28, 2016 21:48:04 GMT -5
the richer you are the more tax breaks you get This is true only for the absolute richest, like hedge fund managers, Warren Buffet, and actors who get goat farms. For most of the top 1%, this is not true and they pay close to half of all federal income tax. Yes and no. But the larger point was about education. Public K-12 schools are funded largely by property taxes thanks to a state by state effort by Republicans, starting with prop 13 here in California. The cost of higher education, including state colleges, has gone up exponentially over the past few decades. It used to be free here in Cali until we had Reagan take over. The effective corporate tax rate is grotesquely low, leaving schools woefully underfunded and my generation crippled (hehehe) with student debt. Hence, corporate lawyers have no souls. It's the only logical conclusion. |
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Post by darthoso on Dec 28, 2016 22:42:58 GMT -5
Corporate lawyers keep corporations from just outright breaking the law. Nothing happen unless the lawyer signs off.
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Post by doe on Dec 29, 2016 0:38:17 GMT -5
A couple of things to think about when planning your legal career. Law students wanting to help people are a dime a dozen and they generally leave law school with a whole lot of passion and no real legal skills. Having commercial law skills behind you will open more doors to positions where you can be more effective in helping people. Many social service organisations fold because they do not have commercial law or business skills to be sustainable. They rely on government handouts or donations to do good works all paid for by taxes or from money made by people with no soul. But they still have to make it work commercially. And how do I know this? Because I am one those lawyers working in the NFP sector helping people who started their life as a corporate lawyer and am probably similar to those who will likely be interviewing you for that legal job you covet. Being a little bit more open minded about the way you look at the legal profession can only help you.
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Post by matisse on Dec 29, 2016 2:11:39 GMT -5
This is true only for the absolute richest, like hedge fund managers, Warren Buffet, and actors who get goat farms. For most of the top 1%, this is not true and they pay close to half of all federal income tax. Yes and no. I looked at your link, and I remain correct. |
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Post by matisse on Dec 29, 2016 2:15:00 GMT -5
It used to be free here in Cali I have never said "Cali." |
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Post by lavly on Dec 29, 2016 3:54:53 GMT -5
A couple of things to think about when planning your legal career. Law students wanting to help people are a dime a dozen and they generally leave law school with a whole lot of passion and no real legal skills. Having commercial law skills behind you will open more doors to positions where you can be more effective in helping people. Many social service organisations fold because they do not have commercial law or business skills to be sustainable. They rely on government handouts or donations to do good works all paid for by taxes or from money made by people with no soul. But they still have to make it work commercially. And how do I know this? Because I am one those lawyers working in the NFP sector helping people who started their life as a corporate lawyer and am probably similar to those who will likely be interviewing you for that legal job you covet. Being a little bit more open minded about the way you look at the legal profession can only help you. +1 |
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Post by doe on Dec 29, 2016 5:22:18 GMT -5
Ooooh interesting thread ... As for corporate law, my brother in law earns a 7 figure salary as a lawyer in the oil sector, he pays more in tax than I earn and those taxes all go into the pot that provides things like social care, education, defence ... Everything But he also volunteers as a legal advisor for a autism charity, no way could they "pay" his going rate and his advice and "contacts" have been invaluable, particularly fundraising events which I know has raised well over £100,000. Excellent point. Most corporate lawyers I know also volunteer to provide legal services to those in need. Most commercial law firms also have pro bono programmes enabling their lawyers to provide legal services for social purposes rather than financial. |
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ynwa
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Post by ynwa on Dec 29, 2016 6:20:00 GMT -5
First of all, can we drop the no souls thing? It's obvious hyperbole.
Second:
Dude... dude... doooood... I'd like you to meet your good friends and mine Exxon-Mobile (who now come with their own Secretary of State!), Dow Chemical, Phillip-Morris, Chiquita, HSBC (Hooray for money laundering), Wells Fargo, Enron, Bear Stearns, Pretty much the entire financial industry, Blackwater, 99.9% of private military contractors, GE, That utility company from that Julie Roberts movie... did their lawyers sign off on everything they did? Is not breaking the law really the standard you want to strive for as a society? I suppose mafia lawyers help mobsters stay on the straight and narrow?
Thirdly taxes guy... If you want to remove all nuance from the equation then the richer you get the more tax breaks you get is a 100% true statement. No? And I know you didn't say California, it was an example to illustrate my point that education isn't funded by rich people. Student loan debt is now largest source of debt in this country.
Lastly, I'm feeling a little like I'm being mobbed here so can we like... chill out a little bit?
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