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Post by newjess on Jan 2, 2017 15:15:57 GMT -5
Back to the OP... honestly I have no problem with men who think they are better off not being in a relationship with women for varying reasons. Maybe they feel that being in a relationship keeps them from pursuing goals in their life, or that they need to work on themselves and being a relationship hinders that.
It's the blaming their problems on womankind... the objectification and degradation that I find damaging and harmful.
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Post by weslye on Jan 2, 2017 19:18:46 GMT -5
I've listened to the video entirely and to me was just the reflection of the real world. First feminists were ok but nowadays feminists are crazy people, liars and criminals. I've seen too many proof for this. I don't hate women at all, but i totally disagree with feminism affirmations, like toxic masculinity, kill all men, women raping young boys and so many other nasty things. I listen to Sandman once in a while and most of his ideas are valid. The fact that this site is made by women for women makes me think that the truth is twisted here.
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Post by newjess on Jan 2, 2017 20:04:07 GMT -5
I've listened to the video entirely and to me was just the reflection of the real world. First feminists were ok but nowadays feminists are crazy people, liars and criminals. I've seen too many proof for this. I don't hate women at all, but i totally disagree with feminism affirmations, like toxic masculinity, kill all men, women raping young boys and so many other nasty things. I listen to Sandman once in a while and most of his ideas are valid. The fact that this site is made by women for women makes me think that the truth is twisted here. What makes you think that's what feminism is? Do you have any sources that back up these claims? Everything you listed sounds like an extreme. Are there people who claim to be feminist that take it to the extreme like that? Sure... but it doesn't characterize the feminist movement as a whole. Feminism can be multidimensional and intersectional. There are many sects and critiques within the movement itself. For example, one critique being that much of feminist theory often only worked in favor of middle class to wealthy white women (did not consider the specific obstacles of lower socioeconomic status or women of color). So some sects of feminism serve to critique traditional feminist theory. What aspects of this video echo the real world in your opinion? A few others have said this, but none have given any specifics.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 21:04:13 GMT -5
I've listened to the video entirely and to me was just the reflection of the real world. First feminists were ok but nowadays feminists are crazy people, liars and criminals. I've seen too many proof for this. I don't hate women at all, but i totally disagree with feminism affirmations, like toxic masculinity, kill all men, women raping young boys and so many other nasty things. I listen to Sandman once in a while and most of his ideas are valid. The fact that this site is made by women for women makes me think that the truth is twisted here. What makes you think that's what feminism is? Do you have any sources that back up these claims? Everything you listed sounds like an extreme. Are there people who claim to be feminist that take it to the extreme like that? Sure... but it doesn't characterize the feminist movement as a whole. Feminism can be multidimensional and intersectional. There are many sects and critiques within the movement itself. For example, one critique being that much of feminist theory often only worked in favor of middle class to wealthy white women (did not consider the specific obstacles of lower socioeconomic status or women of color). So some sects of feminism serve to critique traditional feminist theory. What aspects of this video echo the real world in your opinion? A few others have said this, but none have given any specifics. None of them will divulge their toxic views on women because they know it would interfere with their doomed attempts at getting laid on this forum. Anyways, reading this thread I noticed that jess, el cid, and TC all basically agreed (while somehow writing like they disagree) that we should "tolerate" assholes as far as treating them with dignity and trying to have open dialogue with them, so as to not drive them further into hiding and deeper into hatred where there is less chance of reaching them ideologically. At least, that's what I got out of it. I disagree. I think they should be openly mocked and disrespected. For one, it's enjoyable to do this, in a primal, human sort of way (at least for me). Secondly, it drives them further into their MRA/MGTOW ways, thus increasing the likelihood that they will remove themselves from the gene pool. Then there's the bonus effect of them going into hiding for fear of the backlash they would receive for openly espousing these views. The less of this shit I see, the better, and then I can go on enjoying my status as a beta cuck while they all have a circle jerk of bitterness on some long-forgotten corner of the Internet.
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Post by newjess on Jan 2, 2017 22:29:42 GMT -5
Pushing people to the fringes is what often leads to violence though... then innocent pepole get hurt.
Not necessarily advocating to treat hateful people like they are my best buddies, but more so to hear someone out on their viewpoint rather than immedietly dismiss them.
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Post by lavly on Jan 2, 2017 22:34:36 GMT -5
I think they should be openly mocked and disrespected. For one, it's enjoyable to do this, in a primal, human sort of way (at least for me). Secondly, it drives them further into their MRA/MGTOW ways, thus increasing the likelihood that they will remove themselves from the gene pool. Then there's the bonus effect of them going into hiding for fear of the backlash they would receive for openly espousing these views. The less of this shit I see, the better, and then I can go on enjoying my status as a beta cuck while they all have a circle jerk of bitterness on some long-forgotten corner of the Internet. +1
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Post by Corey on Jan 3, 2017 1:03:40 GMT -5
I agree with SOR, some people are just beyond logic and cannot be reasoned with. But I think if you make fun of and humiliate these people enough some will change their view or maybe just be careful when they talk about it publicly again.
I don't know what else to say about this topic. But I am surprised no one mentioned the dog brain transplant into a female human yet. I think these guys are really misguided. Everyone has bad dating experiences and I think it happens to these guys and they blame it on the entire other sex. I understand sometimes people suck, but when you start talking about interspecies brain transplants you are a lunatic.
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Post by Emma on Jan 3, 2017 1:40:03 GMT -5
OMG this thread.
I am not even going to comment on any specifics just go through and like posts. Man, do you all have a lot of time to write posts. SOR and Corey you two made me laugh. Now Braced is gone and we don't have any one but that monotone-voiced blind dude to help us understand it.
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Post by newjess on Jan 3, 2017 1:50:28 GMT -5
OMG this thread. I am not even going to comment on any specifics just go through and like posts. Man do you all have a lot of time to wrote posts. SOR and Corey you two made me laugh. Now Braced is gone and we don't have any one but that monotone-voiced blind dude to help us understand it. LOL Emma
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Post by lavly on Jan 3, 2017 3:48:50 GMT -5
OMG this thread. Now Braced is gone and we don't have any one but that monotone-voiced blind dude to help us understand it. na emma we still have this dude : " First feminists were ok but nowadays feminists are crazy people, liars and criminals. I've seen too many proof for this. I don't hate women at all, but i totally disagree with feminism affirmations, like toxic masculinity, kill all men, women raping young boys and so many other nasty things." i wonder how long it will take for him to delete his name and posts , then to fuck back off to his prejudice nook of the internet.
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Post by weslye on Jan 3, 2017 3:50:59 GMT -5
You "feminists" posters here are hilarious. Made me smile even laugh. You are just as all the other feminists out there. Ignore everything you don't like and play with whatever you think fits to your views, then blame the truth for being true. . It's not about you, neither about women, it's all about lies, crimes, manipulation. Feminism is evil and selfish , even the name says that. Feminism claims to be about equality but it isn't. If you really want equality, then be an egalitarian , not a feminist. Do not ask me to teach you about everything wrong about feminism, just go on their sites, educate yourself and then come to accuse me. Inform yourself about both mra and feminism and then ask me what i truly believe. The fact in mra circles there are men that hates women i won't deny, but to accuse the entire movement for hating women makes you look really ignorant especially after you proved you don't know much about them. Feminism nowadays is just a social experiment supported by the governments because it fits to their agenda. Inform yourself people, don't kill the messenger
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Post by lavly on Jan 3, 2017 4:35:22 GMT -5
Hey Weslye, there's a dude on here called 'braced4impact'. Go find him
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Post by Tek on Jan 3, 2017 5:51:28 GMT -5
The fact in mra circles there are men that hates women i won't deny, but to accuse the entire movement for hating women makes you look really ignorant especially after you proved you don't know much about them. Feminism nowadays is just a social experiment supported by the governments because it fits to their agenda. Inform yourself people, don't kill the messenger Think about these two statements, and then try again. Thanks for the laugh, though!
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Post by Peony on Jan 3, 2017 7:04:22 GMT -5
I agree with SOR, some people are just beyond logic and cannot be reasoned with. But I think if you make fun of and humiliate these people enough some will change their view or maybe just be careful when they talk about it publicly again. I don't know what else to say about this topic. But I am surprised no one mentioned the dog brain transplant into a female human yet. I think these guys are really misguided. Everyone has bad dating experiences and I think it happens to these guys and they blame it on the entire other sex. I understand sometimes people suck, but when you start talking about interspecies brain transplants you are a lunatic. That was a particular highlight, I have to say. I didn't want to fan any fires, and it was equal parts repulsively offensive to both species, outrageously ridiculous and bombastically uneducated. After laughing all that came into my (human, I swear) brain was STFUI figured we didn't need any more outrage
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Post by darthoso on Jan 3, 2017 9:09:16 GMT -5
You "feminists" posters here are hilarious. Made me smile even laugh. You are just as all the other feminists out there. Ignore everything you don't like and play with whatever you think fits to your views, then blame the truth for being true. . It's not about you, neither about women, it's all about lies, crimes, manipulation. Feminism is evil and selfish , even the name says that. Feminism claims to be about equality but it isn't. If you really want equality, then be an egalitarian , not a feminist. Do not ask me to teach you about everything wrong about feminism, just go on their sites, educate yourself and then come to accuse me. Inform yourself about both mra and feminism and then ask me what i truly believe. The fact in mra circles there are men that hates women i won't deny, but to accuse the entire movement for hating women makes you look really ignorant especially after you proved you don't know much about them. Feminism nowadays is just a social experiment supported by the governments because it fits to their agenda. Inform yourself people, don't kill the messenger See, this is why I'm kinda with Corey and SOR, how do you tolerantly debate someone when their starting point is...this...?
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