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Post by Hopper on Jan 3, 2017 9:11:57 GMT -5
When MGTOW start spouting nonsense like the Dogs/Women's brains bullhonkey (in a Library, can't swear) then it completely destroys the credibility of everything else they've said.
Not that it had much of that in the first place but it's no wonder why they fail to be taken seriously when they say that stuff in utmost seriousness.
I feel sympathy for them, I do but a lot of the time they appear to bring all that upon themselves and refuse to learn from the rejection they've faced.
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Post by weslye on Jan 3, 2017 11:04:33 GMT -5
Biased judgment and huge hypocrisy stops your brains ? You can fuck around on your feminist site and swim in your bulshit yourselves. I'm out of here bitches. Anyway i came once or twice in a month. Fuck feminism. Go to hell feminism racists criminals. I can't be on the same site with misandrists who are worst than terrorists.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Jan 3, 2017 11:46:08 GMT -5
Oh, wow. I am worse than a terrorist.
Um. Yeah. Wow.
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Post by darthoso on Jan 3, 2017 11:46:44 GMT -5
Biased judgment and huge hypocrisy stops your brains ? You can fuck around on your feminist site and swim in your bulshit yourselves. I'm out of here bitches. Anyway i came once or twice in a month. Fuck feminism. Go to hell feminism racists criminals. I can't be on the same site with misandrists who are worst than terrorists. Bye!
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Post by darthoso on Jan 3, 2017 11:48:32 GMT -5
Oh, wow. I am worse than a terrorist. Um. Yeah. Wow. You all can terrorize me any day.
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Post by Tek on Jan 3, 2017 12:01:50 GMT -5
Back on topic: I feel sympathy for them, I do but a lot of the time they appear to bring all that upon themselves and refuse to learn from the rejection they've faced. I wonder how much of it is based on getting rejected to begin with, and how much of it is an undeserved attribution of shallowness that the MRA-type guys project upon all women as a coping mechanism for whatever insecurities they have. All I can tell anyone who struggles with dating or getting dates is to just keep trying and to fail often. The odds are stacked against you to begin with, there's no guarantee you'll succeed at all, and focusing all your hopes on one shot is only going to make you fail harder and feel more miserable. Rejection gets easier to deal with over time. Eventually you'll find out that whenever a door closes, two more open up, as long as you keep looking.
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Post by newjess on Jan 3, 2017 12:59:16 GMT -5
You "feminists" posters here are hilarious. Made me smile even laugh. You are just as all the other feminists out there. Ignore everything you don't like and play with whatever you think fits to your views, then blame the truth for being true. . It's not about you, neither about women, it's all about lies, crimes, manipulation. Feminism is evil and selfish , even the name says that. Feminism claims to be about equality but it isn't. If you really want equality, then be an egalitarian , not a feminist. Do not ask me to teach you about everything wrong about feminism, just go on their sites, educate yourself and then come to accuse me. Inform yourself about both mra and feminism and then ask me what i truly believe. The fact in mra circles there are men that hates women i won't deny, but to accuse the entire movement for hating women makes you look really ignorant especially after you proved you don't know much about them. Feminism nowadays is just a social experiment supported by the governments because it fits to their agenda. Inform yourself people, don't kill the messenger See, this is why I'm kinda with Corey and SOR, how do you tolerantly debate someone when their starting point is...this...? I just advocate for giving them a chance to explain themselves. But this person is clearly disrespectful and unreasonable... I don't wish to engage in that. No point trying to rationalize with an irrational person.
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Post by newjess on Jan 3, 2017 13:10:27 GMT -5
Back on topic: I feel sympathy for them, I do but a lot of the time they appear to bring all that upon themselves and refuse to learn from the rejection they've faced. I wonder how much of it is based on getting rejected to begin with, and how much of it is an undeserved attribution of shallowness that the MRA-type guys project upon all women as a coping mechanism for whatever insecurities they have. All I can tell anyone who struggles with dating or getting dates is to just keep trying and to fail often. The odds are stacked against you to begin with, there's no guarantee you'll succeed at all, and focusing all your hopes on one shot is only going to make you fail harder and feel more miserable. Rejection gets easier to deal with over time. Eventually you'll find out that whenever a door closes, two more open up, as long as you keep looking. Hit the nail on the head. I hate to be a Debbie Downer... but I just can't help but reflect on the Eliot Roger (Santa Barbara shooting) and how he was influenced by this mentality. I guess I just see the power of rejection and what it can push people to do. What is the best way to prevent this kind of violence? I am not saying we should accept them with open arms and let them do whatever they want to do. But I also don't know if rejecting them even further leads to any positive change. I don't have the answer it's just a really serious issue that worries me alot.
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Post by Hopper on Jan 3, 2017 13:19:03 GMT -5
Back on topic: I wonder how much of it is based on getting rejected to begin with, and how much of it is an undeserved attribution of shallowness that the MRA-type guys project upon all women as a coping mechanism for whatever insecurities they have. All I can tell anyone who struggles with dating or getting dates is to just keep trying and to fail often. The odds are stacked against you to begin with, there's no guarantee you'll succeed at all, and focusing all your hopes on one shot is only going to make you fail harder and feel more miserable. Rejection gets easier to deal with over time. Eventually you'll find out that whenever a door closes, two more open up, as long as you keep looking. I get the impression it's a bit of both. One triggers the other and visa versa, turning it into a looping cycle of hate that they can't find a way out of. They also seem to lack the ability to put themselves in another's shoes and see themselves from someone else's perspective which can also help a lot but instead they only think about themselves. Maybe with some of these guys it's something of a trigger, a compulsion to throw this frustration around and they can't help it. This is something I can relate to (though with me it's a compulsion to hate/hurt myself and not to treat women or anyone else unfairly) and sympathise with and my suggestion is to get help, to find an alternative avenue for this fustration so as not to hurt yourself and others. If there's one thing I've learnt in the past 12 months, it's that you really are never alone and going through things alone, bottling them up and not talking them through is a very dangerous thing.
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Post by darthoso on Jan 3, 2017 14:30:08 GMT -5
Back on topic: I wonder how much of it is based on getting rejected to begin with, and how much of it is an undeserved attribution of shallowness that the MRA-type guys project upon all women as a coping mechanism for whatever insecurities they have. All I can tell anyone who struggles with dating or getting dates is to just keep trying and to fail often. The odds are stacked against you to begin with, there's no guarantee you'll succeed at all, and focusing all your hopes on one shot is only going to make you fail harder and feel more miserable. Rejection gets easier to deal with over time. Eventually you'll find out that whenever a door closes, two more open up, as long as you keep looking. Hit the nail on the head. I hate to be a Debbie Downer... but I just can't help but reflect on the Eliot Roger (Santa Barbara shooting) and how he was influenced by this mentality. I guess I just see the power of rejection and what it can push people to do. What is the best way to prevent this kind of violence? I am not saying we should accept them with open arms and let them do whatever they want to do. But I also don't know if rejecting them even further leads to any positive change. I don't have the answer it's just a really serious issue that worries me alot. I know a little about this... Historically acts of violence have typically resulted in the group or movement becoming further isolated and marginalized. The OK City Bomber seriously thought he was going to trigger an armed uprising against the US Government, instead he set the Right Wing Militia movement back two decades since he killed a lot of children in the day care. Only now is it back thanks to that Jury that nullified the Bundys in Oregon. Only when there is an ongoing tic for tac (Israel and Palestinians) do things further escalate. I'd argue that the MRAs world view is inherently violent so accepting it into the general discourse could lead to ongoing low level violence being accepted, as it is in a lot of the world (sexual assaults, domestic violence). It sucks, but the flashes in the pan are the price we pay. To quote my favorite, fake, British Ambassador "It's the price you pay for being rich free and alive, all at same time".
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Post by ynwa on Jan 3, 2017 20:29:27 GMT -5
-Lord John Marbury
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