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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2019 13:49:24 GMT -5
Anyone currently using a carbon fibre wheelchair ? Trying to see if users actually think theyre worth the cost.
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Post by dave78 on Oct 15, 2019 21:47:21 GMT -5
I use an aluminum frame but the general benefit of carbon fiber over titanium is stiffness. More stiffness equals less energy loss when propelling yourself forward. If you want the portability of an aluminum frame folding chair with the stiffness and weight of a titanium rigid frame then the Veloce might be worth it. If you are comparing a TR3 to the Apex they are pretty similar in every way including price, but the stiffness should be better on the Apex.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 5:24:33 GMT -5
I use an aluminum frame but the general benefit of carbon fiber over titanium is stiffness. More stiffness equals less energy loss when propelling yourself forward. If you want the portability of an aluminum frame folding chair with the stiffness and weight of a titanium rigid frame then the Veloce might be worth it. If you are comparing a TR3 to the Apex they are pretty similar in every way including price, but the stiffness should be better on the Apex. Thanks for the info 😊. Is the difference enough that you really notice it ? It would have to be a big improvement to be worth the price. Also im guessing the ones youve mentioned are an american brand ? |
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Post by Sova on Oct 16, 2019 13:39:26 GMT -5
If you’re exclusively talking about an ultra lightweight everyday, then the only carbon fibre frame I’ve actually seen used around me was the Panthera X. I’ve seen a total of two of them; they’re not that popular. I’m sure it benefits from being light on the bathroom scale, but its aesthetics game is pretty weak. It looks straight out of the 1998 Sports ’N Spokes Annual Survey of Wheelchairs issue. Plus, most importantly, it seems cheaply constructed.  And also, I hope you’re not talking about this, the vomitorium of chairs...  |
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Post by zackamp on Oct 16, 2019 15:27:37 GMT -5
My TiLite frame is titanium but I think my Spinergy wheels have carbon spokes.... It's super light and strong... I've beat the hell out of it and it's still rolling perfectly. I think carbon fibre frames are subject to damage if they get impacted by something. They are strong and light but in certain circumstances they can be fragile I think.
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Post by dave78 on Oct 16, 2019 19:34:42 GMT -5
I use an aluminum frame but the general benefit of carbon fiber over titanium is stiffness. More stiffness equals less energy loss when propelling yourself forward. If you want the portability of an aluminum frame folding chair with the stiffness and weight of a titanium rigid frame then the Veloce might be worth it. If you are comparing a TR3 to the Apex they are pretty similar in every way including price, but the stiffness should be better on the Apex. Thanks for the info 😊. Is the difference enough that you really notice it ? It would have to be a big improvement to be worth the price. Also im guessing the ones youve mentioned are an american brand ? Motion Composites the maker of the Apex and the Veloce is a Canadian company and Permobil the maker of the TiLite TR series 3 is based in Sweden but I'm sure they have offices everywhere. If we are talking about the difference between an aluminum folding wheelchair and a carbon fiber folding chair I would say the difference is noticeable in every way. Whether or not it's worth the price is not a question I can answer though. Personally, I would decide whether I needed the portability of a folding frame or the rigidity of a rigid frame and either pick an aluminum folding frame or a titanium rigid frame. The difference between titanium and carbon fiber is a muddy subject at best. When carbon fiber is engineered correctly it's better than titanium, if it is engineered poorly it can be much worse. I'm sorry I couldn't give you a definite answer to your question but I think I laid things out well enough so that you can make an informed decision. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2019 20:03:07 GMT -5
If you’re exclusively talking about an ultra lightweight everyday, then the only carbon fibre frame I’ve actually seen used around me was the Panthera X. I’ve seen a total of two of them; they’re not that popular. I’m sure it benefits from being light on the bathroom scale, but its aesthetics game is pretty weak. It looks straight out of the 1998 Sports ’N Spokes Annual Survey of Wheelchairs issue. Plus, most importantly, it seems cheaply constructed. And also, I hope you’re not talking about this, the vomitorium of chairs... Okaaaay, the "vomitorium" is very odd lol. What my partner wants is a rigid frame, lightweight everyday chair. He currently has the quickie helium with spinergy wheels but has been given the chance of an upgrade. Would you recommend anything in particular ? |
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Post by Sova on Oct 17, 2019 15:17:26 GMT -5
Okaaaay, the "vomitorium" is very odd lol. What my partner wants is a rigid frame, lightweight everyday chair. He currently has the quickie helium with spinergy wheels but has been given the chance of an upgrade. Would you recommend anything in particular ? You can tell your sexual comrade to look into an RGK. I just picked up a 🔥 frame from them last week in matte black that's sub 4kgs, and it's primo. It's a UK based company, so it's close to home for you. Hopefully, your mans has some government/insurance funding because these chairs are insanely pricey, but they're equally crazy in strength and build quality. rgkwheelchairs.com |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2019 16:53:16 GMT -5
Okaaaay, the "vomitorium" is very odd lol. What my partner wants is a rigid frame, lightweight everyday chair. He currently has the quickie helium with spinergy wheels but has been given the chance of an upgrade. Would you recommend anything in particular ? You can tell your sexual comrade to look into an RGK. I just picked up a 🔥 frame from them last week in matte black that's sub 4kgs, and it's primo. It's a UK based company, so it's close to home for you. Hopefully, your mans has some government/insurance funding because these chairs are insanely pricey, but they're equally crazy in strength and build quality. rgkwheelchairs.comThat looks amazing ! Under 4kgs is a game changer. Can you give us an idea of pricing, dm if you prefer. |
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Post by HottRodd on Oct 22, 2019 16:14:10 GMT -5
I use the Panthera X Which Sova posted above. It is a very good chair, i've had it since 2015. The best thing about it is that it really is super lightweight. When you pack it into your car etc, this is the biggest advantage since it is really light on the shoulders, mainly the rotators. It is also super easy to push. The biggest drawback is that it really is not ergonomically adapted at all. I do hope that they will improve on this for later models.
All in all, a very good wheelchair.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2019 17:21:06 GMT -5
Thanks guys, youve been a great help. He is going to trial an RGK and if he doesnt like it then back to the drawing board.
We looked at the panthera x as its really light, but just didnt like the look of it. The design doesnt seem to have changed for years sadly.
Quickie do a lightweight but he already has one and the finish is really poor. Quite a few sharp edges and it looked used very early on.
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