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Post by Pony on Nov 22, 2006 15:54:25 GMT -5
As for me and Triassic's meeting, we met at a neighborhood block party that i was crashing. I have a few AB buddies that live in his 'hood, and since we were the only crips there, we started talking. Tri-man is cool guy, and he's the one who turned me on to this site. I didn't even know about devoism until i started reading here. You never know who you'll run into at block-parties!!  Windrider - I now insert a Vienna Sausage, as to not scare the female prey!!! |
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Post by E on Nov 22, 2006 17:50:35 GMT -5
Leggings? I thought they were tight sweat pants. Where do you get them, T? I love wearin em...they contour to my legs, which still have almost normal shape. They go with anything i wear on top, and people don't really even notice that much what a chair dude wears on legs since they don't see us strutting around. I'm a very vain person, but that's my personal hangup. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0007RS94K/yahoo-apparel-20/ref%3Dnosim/002-9842106-1416064The female model looks great in the tights, I'll say. But I digress... I think this is where a lot of wheelers get it wrong. "They don't care what I have on because I'm in a chair." This is a huge error. What you wear is very important BECAUSE you're a gimp. This includes your pants. Seriously. Your attire shows a sense of normalcy and speaks volumes about your confidence, self-esteem, and your ability to cope and re-enter society. I don't mean any offense by this, but this next paragraph is going to come out harsh. I just want you to understand and hopefully take my advice. I think it will improve your life. I wouldn't leave the house wearing those leggings. If you're medically required to (like you're required to wear that chair), then that's one thing, but if you're not, then get rid of them. You don't see men out in public wearing them... unless you're at the ballet or an 80's rock concert. Go back to jeans. Get some khakis. You say your legs are fairly normal. Rock some below-the-knee shorts. The leggings make you seem more medical. People don't wear them, so onlookers are assuming there's a reason (and they're not thinking style) that you have no choice. I guarantee it. It's important to look good. I dress well when I go out. I make it a point. My attire fits the occasion. It's clean and matches. I wear nice materials that I keep dry cleaned. The clothes I wear enhance my gimp body. If you don't have an eye for it yourself, look around at what men wear when you go out. Take a cool female friend with you for a shopping trip and let her pick what she thinks will look good on you. That's who you're trying to impress, right? I often see gimps in bizarre clothing, dirty clothing, unmatching colors, sloppy fits, etc. and I always want to help them. Let's be real. We're trying to interact with society and get along without discrimination. The wheelchair is already weird. Why add to the weirdness? |
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Post by devogirl on Nov 22, 2006 19:59:48 GMT -5
Right on E! And it's not just the wheelers, plenty of AB straight guys dress like slobs too. Guys, you don't have to go all metro or girly, but PLEASE you'll look so much better if you are clean and neat. No, you don't look good in sweat pants, and you can't cut your own hair. The combination of straight guy and disabled can lead to some questionable fashion choices.
I think Chan, E, and I should host "Queer Eye for the Wheeler Guy." Or "Devo Eye" or something. Seriously.
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Post by Cake on Nov 22, 2006 20:26:39 GMT -5
The female model looks great in the tights, I'll say. But I digress... I think this is where a lot of wheelers get it wrong. "They don't care what I have on because I'm in a chair." This is a huge error. What you wear is very important BECAUSE you're a gimp. This includes your pants. Seriously. Your attire shows a sense of normalcy and speaks volumes about your confidence, self-esteem, and your ability to cope and re-enter society. I don't mean any offense by this, but this next paragraph is going to come out harsh. I just want you to understand and hopefully take my advice. I think it will improve your life. I wouldn't leave the house wearing those leggings. If you're medically required to (like you're required to wear that chair), then that's one thing, but if you're not, then get rid of them. You don't see men out in public wearing them... unless you're at the ballet or an 80's rock concert. Go back to jeans. Get some khakis. You say your legs are fairly normal. Rock some below-the-knee shorts. The leggings make you seem more medical. People don't wear them, so onlookers are assuming there's a reason (and they're not thinking style) that you have no choice. I guarantee it. It's important to look good. I dress well when I go out. I make it a point. My attire fits the occasion. It's clean and matches. I wear nice materials that I keep dry cleaned. The clothes I wear enhance my gimp body. If you don't have an eye for it yourself, look around at what men wear when you go out. Take a cool female friend with you for a shopping trip and let her pick what she thinks will look good on you. That's who you're trying to impress, right? I often see gimps in bizarre clothing, dirty clothing, unmatching colors, sloppy fits, etc. and I always want to help them. Let's be real. We're trying to interact with society and get along without discrimination. The wheelchair is already weird. Why add to the weirdness? I love you, E. |
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Post by Chan on Nov 22, 2006 21:24:43 GMT -5
I think Chan, E, and I should host "Queer Eye for the Wheeler Guy." Or "Devo Eye" or something. Seriously. Done. |
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Post by Pony on Nov 22, 2006 21:59:35 GMT -5
Hmmmm, interesting reaction to my choice of pants!!! I've never thought of them as "queer", or that odd looking. I believe strongly in individuality, and it's just part of my style. I don't have any trouble mixing in public, and i'm completely straight. To me, everybody in a free society should be able to express their own look. I remember in my first years after being hurt i wouldn't wear anything but my jeans, and never a tank top coz i had lost so much of my arm and chest muscle tone. After a few years i discovered shorts, and no, i never let my piss bag show. I later started wearing tank tops again, and it was liberating coz i never thought i'd wear them again. My arms have gotten more normal looking after working out and pushing. I love wearing the leggings, tank tops and shorts, and to me, i won't give that up to try and fit in. It's just me, and i think everyone deserves the freedom to create their own, original look.  |
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Post by TriassicZ52WHU5 on Nov 23, 2006 0:57:20 GMT -5
To me, for my purposes, comfort trumps appearance every time. I do draw the line tho; I''m-honest to God-most comfortable in a pair of Speedos. But I don't wear them out and about.
I do wear mostly shorts...for some reason I don't like how fabric feels on my emaciated legs. And no-they're not 'nice' shorts; just cheap pull-ons. I don't care. I understand the argument you guys are making. but really I don't find that what I wear makes any difference in how I'm treated. I'm certainly not willing to put up with discomfort in order to look a certain way.
For a while I even wore a skirt. Yep. A knee length khaki ladies skirt. It was/is pretty comfortable. No one seemed to take the slightest notice.
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Post by brendanuk on Nov 23, 2006 5:54:10 GMT -5
When i was out of rehab the sweats were thrown out and jeans were thrown on.
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Post by Triassic on Nov 23, 2006 18:02:43 GMT -5
Eh...I do understand what E and devogirl are on about. It's a problem. I'm someone who, were I A.B. could and would spend $1500 on a suit and another 500 on shoes and accesories. I *get* that sort of thing.
I'm constantly on the look out for an ensemble to wear when I simply must look more put together, but that is also comfortable and functional. Right now it's a pair of long black pull ons in raw silk with a black silk t-shirt and oriental style black raw silk overshirt. Yeah, it's a bit 'opium dennish', but it's the best I can do right now.
Tony those black leggings look best.
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Post by sidney on Nov 23, 2006 22:02:05 GMT -5
I'll be the first to admit that I have a bit of an obsession, as I have a room full of clothes and at least 25 pairs of shoes, but I think that seeing as we represent a minority, it's extra, extra important that we look as clean and well put together as possible. I'm not suggesting that we have to wear expensive clothes, but at least look like we gave some thought to getting dressed in the morning.
Tony, I just assumed that you had to wear the tights for a medical reason like hypotension. Either that, or all of your photos were from the early 80s. I know, who the hell am I, and to each their own and all that stuff, but I just don't think the look works for you either. By the way, I absolutely love "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" and they too, would not be impressed by the tights. Especially the shiny ones.
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Post by E on Nov 23, 2006 22:08:21 GMT -5
well i'm not A.B. but i must confess i spent about 1500 (Yes US) on my last suit.. tailored to me... and as much as it was extravagant, nothing's ever fit me better or looked soooo good  |
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Post by E on Nov 23, 2006 22:10:00 GMT -5
I think Chan, E, and I should host "Queer Eye for the Wheeler Guy." Or "Devo Eye" or something. Seriously. Done. Devo Eye for the Wheeler Guy. I'm in. Second the "Done." |
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Post by sidney on Nov 23, 2006 22:23:12 GMT -5
Pretty slick, E. Way to represent!
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Post by E on Nov 24, 2006 10:49:47 GMT -5
I love wearing the leggings, tank tops and shorts, and to me, i won't give that up to try and fit in. It's just me, and i think everyone deserves the freedom to create their own, original look. You're absolutely right. Just realize that if you weren't a chair, I really don't think you could get away with it at all. And you said earlier that you didn't think anyone noticed because you're sitting... just know that's nowhere near the truth. People really do notice your pants (and your shoes) even though you're not walking. You definitely have the right to wear whatever you want, and if you understand what you're doing and the consequences, then more power to you. A wise man once said something along the lines of, "I know the rules. That's why I can break them." |
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Post by Ouch on Nov 24, 2006 13:17:55 GMT -5
Yeah, when it comes to clothing...I tend to look mainstream, and sometimes I try to go for the elitist ritz...don't know, perhaps it is the environment I'm in, but I do have a knack for trying the James Bond look, or whatever...I think that's true with all aspects of life though...I'm sure some of us would rather wear jeans to the office some days, but we dress up anyway, even if it isn't 100% comfortable...if I'm at home, I'll lean to comfort though, 'cause it's not like I'm trying to impress (that's speaking the impossible with me though lol) anyone there.
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