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Post by Ray T on May 22, 2008 8:32:05 GMT -5
Natasha, Thanks for not outing me ...lol but I try not to make it a secret I just do not post it in oter boards what gropes i am in... lol
But any way, My opinion is that the Beautyability groupe is a bit jaded when it comes to devs. The board owner has had a few trouble with a few of the sicko type dev (The police had to get involved and all sorts of things) and now thinks all devs are like that. and knowing her as I do it is my opinion that trying to talk to here about it is pointless. And she is right about some of the things she thinks about Devs, but not all devs are like that. Here at para devo mostif not all of the devs are female, which it seems are lots nicer and less stocker'ish than there male counterparts.
As for defending Devs there, I can't truely recall if I have or not. but i know that all people are not the same and they are good and bad i all walks of life and i base my opinion on people on how they treat me not on the label they have or give themselfs, I have made that clear more than once. to me i say each there own and if they like me... even better..lol
By the way I love the Name Natasha, Is that your real name?
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Post by trollfuhrer on May 22, 2008 19:18:12 GMT -5
I've been away for a while but I always drop by to see how my site is doing. Interestingly, when I google Paradevo, I see comments from people (devs and wheelers) who love the site with a thousand thank you's. That makes me feel good. But then there are comments from wheelers who think the whole thing is sick sick sick. For those of you more active in the devotee community, can you tell me how this site is viewed by everyone else? Is it still sort of hidden? Is it hated? Loved? Is it generally accepted? Have I managed to foster any understanding or enlightenment? Thanks in advance for your input. I stumbled onto it while surfing. I think it's a great place. The more we talk, the more we heal. Good on ya. |
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Post by natasha on May 28, 2008 23:12:16 GMT -5
Hey Ray!! I would of never say it was you who I recognized! but cool to make your point clear  ..I was surprised to see u here, but like you're saying: not everyone is the same!!..Cool that you're enjoying your time in here!! ;D you like the name Natasha,huh..me too!  |
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Post by parapowered on May 28, 2008 23:39:44 GMT -5
Maybe I am off center, but I do not completely understand "anti-devs". I mean what could possibly be better than someone embracing you for what you are?
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Post by Claire on May 29, 2008 15:53:23 GMT -5
Parapowered, much of the "anti-dev" sentiment is because some people with disabilities have had problems with being stalked by devotees, or having candid pictures taken of them and then posted without their knowledge on devotee photo sites. Mostly this kind of thing is happening with male devotees of female wheelers or amputees. This isn't to say that most male devs are like that; I know lots of decent male devs. But that kind of behavior *is* creepy, and gives us all a bad name. If you've been the object of something like that, I have no problem understanding why you'd be anti-dev. As far as devotee websites go, the level of decency found at paradevo is unfortunately the exception, and not the rule.
Others say that devotees "objectify" the disabled: that the disabled become nothing more than fetish objects.
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Post by spurs2000 on May 30, 2008 17:42:25 GMT -5
I think this site rocks Lee it always has. Devotees still seems unfamiliar to most & so underground in my opinion.
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Post by Ray T on Jun 2, 2008 11:02:45 GMT -5
Natasha,
what was your BA name was it the same as the one you use here?
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Post by charlene on Jun 3, 2008 0:39:58 GMT -5
Seems like the devotee subject comes up every now and then on disability dating sites.
It's always brought up by females. They thinks, it's pathetic, sick, disgusting etc. While guys think, it's surprising, cool- they're thrilled.
Those females always complain about AB guys asking too much specific questions about their disability.
Rarely any complaints from guys. ;D
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Post by Ray T on Jun 3, 2008 1:23:08 GMT -5
I know I have found that too. I just wonder why it is that way? I truely think it has to do with a woman's nurtuering natuer... Do any of you think that is a part of you dev-isim? The mothering side of you knowing someone needs you?
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Post by BA on Jun 3, 2008 15:55:36 GMT -5
I think after probably several centuries or eons of being viewed as sexual objects and largely on the basis of our physical attractiveness we women do tend to get testy about being 'objectified'. Let's face it, men are highly visual creatures. I have one male devotee friend that I've known for years, way before the internet even existed and his collections of photos and his frequequent stories of 'sightings' kind of gross me out too. He is just so damned FOCUSED on the body...just the body.
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Post by natasha on Jun 4, 2008 19:10:30 GMT -5
Answeringyour question Ray-nop is wasnt natasha (actually posted with my real name)...I met my ex boyfriend in there and I posted a few comments, I never felt at home there.......And when my ex and i broke up then I never came back.........
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Post by Ray T on Jun 4, 2008 22:46:41 GMT -5
gosh now you have me wondering who you are... lol and if I have flirted with you enough yet... lol
could I talk you into a PM with details about you ID?
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Post by BA on Jun 7, 2008 21:39:13 GMT -5
I think after probably several centuries or eons of being viewed as sexual objects and largely on the basis of our physical attractiveness we women do tend to get testy about being 'objectified'. Let's face it, men are highly visual creatures. I have one male devotee friend that I've known for years, way before the internet even existed and his collections of photos and his frequequent stories of 'sightings' kind of gross me out too. He is just so damned FOCUSED on the body...just the body. Let me add to this by saying that the person that I referenced above happened to contact me via e-mail and was very hurt by what I said about him and intimated about male devotees in general. I wrote him back and realized that he and I had never once in our probably 20 plus years of knowing eachother had ever discussed the emotional component of devotee-ism. We didn't, in fact, even have a name for it at the time. I am sorry that I made such a statement that could hold blanket implications for men, particularly men devotees. I have yet to meet one who didn't have a large collection of photos, or 'equiptment' such as braces, wheelchairs or videos and I have always been uncomfortable with that. I don't know exactly why. So, to my friend, I am sorry that it makes me uncomfortable and that I hurt you by posting that. And to you guys, a question: Is it a 'guy thing' to collect stuff? |
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Post by Ouch on Jun 7, 2008 22:21:44 GMT -5
I know of some male devotees (not on purpose), that do not have the large photo collections, do not have the near, or beyond criminal tendencies (as in, stalking, illegally taking/exhibiting photos, etc.) and other such attributes that many male devotees are criticised (justly) for.
It's not always a 'guy thing' to collect 'things'. I know of some men that like a completely minimalist lifestyle, living with few things, and actually, I would say this case is more common than some may think.
...though that being said, I am one of those 'hoarders' (Someone's told me it can even be a diesease of sorts)...but I probably have OCD, as I can't bear to see it out of place most of the time.
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Post by mrjefffurz on Jun 8, 2008 18:05:16 GMT -5
does a large collection of stuffed teddybears that grrls have gifted me with count? ;D
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..I was surprised to see u here, but like you're saying: not everyone is the same!!..Cool that you're enjoying your time in here!! ;D
