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Post by Ouch on May 29, 2008 22:01:21 GMT -5
Oh, I know where you're coming from fubb, two weeks ago I did the same exact thing, and I was surprised how hard of a time I was having with a lot of things.
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Post by Pony on May 30, 2008 16:42:10 GMT -5
Fubbster, hope you haven't done more damage than just a strained muscle. I never realized how much stuff can go wrong in the shoulder until I started having shoulder trouble about 5 years ago. I'm in a certain amount of pain always, sometimes severe. That joint takes a beating on us, probably more on me coz I don't have the support muscles to help out, but I've heard of paras needing surgery, like I need, to repair. It's too long of recovery for me, so I'll avoid as long as I can.
Yup, being quad that pushes is a whole different ball game than good strong para. Hope you get better soon man!!
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Post by Phil on Jun 9, 2008 16:08:56 GMT -5
Bad shoulder(s) really suck. Like Tony, I've been putting off the surgery for a few years.
Hope you're better, Fubb.
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Post by Pony on Jun 9, 2008 18:30:43 GMT -5
Speaking of 'appreciation.'... FYI - On the FX tv show "30 Days" this Tues (6/10) at 10pm, they are going to have a former football player use a wheelchair for 30 days... www.fxnetworks.com/shows/originals/30days/index.phpPARTICIPANT - Ray Crockett, 41 RESIDES - Dallas, Texas OCCUPATION - Retired NFL Cornerback/Real Estate Developer AIRDATE - Tuesday, June 10, 2008 Ray played football for Baylor University from 1984-88 before his NFL draft in 1989. He won two Super Bowl rings in 1998 and 1999 as a starting member of the Denver Broncos. During his fourteen years in the NFL, he also played for the Detroit Lions and the Kansas City Chiefs. Today, Ray and his wife April have three children, a 20-year old daughter named Joi and two sons, 13-year-old Ray Junior and seven year old Darryl. Ray now works as a real estate developer and coaches his older son Ray Junior. In 1991, Ray was on the field with the Detroit Lions when his teammate and friend, Mike Utley, was involved in a play that left him paralyzed from the chest down - an event that has not dissipated from Ray's memory. In fact, it is this incident that made Ray want to participate in 30 Days. For 30 Days, Ray will live in a wheelchair and will rely on his mental discipline to keep his legs immobile. His home and his car will be retrofitted to accommodate his needs. Coaching duties for his son's football team will continue and Ray will join the Texas Stampede, the wheelchair rugby team featuring players made famous in the documentary film Murderball. He will attend a weekly support group for paraplegics at the Baylor Institute of Rehabilitation and meet with a physical therapist to monitor any potential side effects. Throughout his 30 Days experience, Ray will be under the medical supervision of Dr. Robert Bruce in order to track any muscle loss, blood clots, pressure sores or other side effects that could occur while he is wheelchair-bound. |
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Post by Pony on Jun 11, 2008 16:34:26 GMT -5
Man, I hope somebody watched that show last night on FX - 30 Days (life in a wheelchair). It was great, very interesting to me. The show was also very accurately educational about the different levels of injury, while sometimes cliche with the normal remarks. Anyway, you can check out a few clips here: www.scienceontv.com/2008/06/09/30-days-in-a-wheel-chair/#comment-715 |
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Post by BA on Jun 11, 2008 17:28:57 GMT -5
Tony, wow - I missed that one. Then again we had some wicked T-storms and lost power. I watched the clip you posted - very, very interesting. Is this a new sort of reality show? I'd never heard of it before.
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Post by andyc251 on Jun 11, 2008 17:59:55 GMT -5
I didn't see the episode of 30 days when it aired in the US 'cos I'm back in the Uk right now, but I love the series and really want to see this episode a soon as possible. If only there was some way to see more than those little clips. cough cough |
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Post by Ouch on Jun 11, 2008 22:39:22 GMT -5
I didn't catch it either, due to severe weather...
*Hoists the Jolly Roger*
I like Andy's idea...
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Post by Pony on Jun 12, 2008 17:01:22 GMT -5
Well, I like the whole idea of this '30 Days' show...disabled, or not, but I'm positive the show was a real 'eye opener' for AB people that basically have zero knowledge about SCI and the complications that follow - nor should they, but it's cool to educate people, I think. The guy having to do 30 days in the chair also had to attend a SCI support group, had a c5 quad peer-mentor, had to go through physical therapy with a quad girl and completely revamping his house, all while performing his regular life with his kids, wife and business. When he first got home, his kids just stared like they were looking at a ghost. I could feel the uncomfortableness in all of them, and there were tons of stairs in his mansion. The bathroom, naturally, was completely unaccessible. I give the guy total props for following through with, knowing he could stop the bullsht anytime. It actually brought back many memories to me...mostly bad, but it also made me appreciate how far I've come to rebuild a 'normal' life.
Can you find the show online somewhere? I'd like to watch again!
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Post by Triassic on Jun 12, 2008 20:09:20 GMT -5
i don't get it. what's it supposed to prove? that using a w/c is tough? no shit! i geuss some will say; 'oh it lets people gain awareness of what disabled life is like.' i don't think it will.
-fasting is vastly different from starvation.
-voluntary celibacy is nothing like being a sexual outcast.
-paintball ain't combat.
i remember when i was a kid at the beach on my little blow-up raft floating 50 ft offshore, i'd look out at the empty horizon and pretend i was adrift in the middle of the ocean. visually, it was the same...but instead of sucking up raw fish guts while being burnt to a crisp by the sun, i could go ashore and get a cheeseburger. my little shipwreck scenario was just mental masturbation.
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Post by Ray T on Jun 13, 2008 3:23:24 GMT -5
While this is true Tri. I do think it brings a level of awarness that normally would not be thought of. True that they can stop and get out of the chair at any time but by being in that chair they see things that the would not have seen standing.
Like someone not knowing what it is like to have to keep your head down to keep from getting shot in combat. getting to see what it is like in a paint ball game. ( I used to play paint ball before I got hurt) yes they will not die but it will hurt and they can see what it is like some what more than if they had did nothing.
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Post by Claire on Jun 13, 2008 11:06:03 GMT -5
No matter what the circumstances, no matter who you are, no one can ever truly know what it's like to be in any other persons' shoes. "Walking a mile in their moccasins" is still just 1 mile out of the 70,000 miles the average person walks in a lifetime. You know better than you did before, and you become more educated than the average Joe. And you get an idea of how much you still don't know, what questions are left unanswered. That's all you can get out of it. But, that said, any increase in knowledge is a good thing.
Also, another thing to consider is that I've read somewhere on some disability activist site that they have found that this type of disability simulation exercise often achieves little more than generating pity, because the person doing the temporary simulation doesn't have the time to acquire the skill and creativity learned and required by someone who is full time. Their first (and maybe only) day in a wheelchair is a huge difference from months of learning to handle the thing properly.
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Post by mrjefffurz on Jun 13, 2008 11:33:59 GMT -5
exactly claire,,,i just roll my eyes at these "stunts"....even when somebody sez they KNOW what im going thru cuz they were in a chair for a week/month/year while recovering from some mishap...
btw...love the change in color is your motto in the word parallel *smile*
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Post by cunning69guy on Jun 13, 2008 14:00:55 GMT -5
AB, This is the 3rd season of 1 hour "documentaries" on FX titled "30 Days" ( fxnetwork.com/shows/originals/30days/ ) by Morgan Spurlock, the Academy Award nominated director/star of the documentary "Supersize Me" about the effects of eating nothing but McDonald's food for 30 days. I believe the episode on "Living in A Wheelchair" will re-air on FX tonight (Friday night/Saturday A.M.) at 2:00-3:01am EST and tomorrow night (Saturday night/Sunday A.M.) at 1:30-2:31am EST, but as they say, "check your local listings for dates and times". |
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Post by Pony on Jun 13, 2008 15:03:23 GMT -5
Hmmmm, well, it just depends on how you look at things!! I think anytime you can get an idea of what other people experience i this life it can be very enlightening. 30 Days, the show, uses that concept in every episode, whether it's a coal miner or being in jail. Agreed, nobody can get the FULL feeling of being a quad/para, or a coal miner, but it's a social experiment that can be educational. There might be some 'sympathy' mixed in there with 'appreciated' and other emotions, but I kinda like the spotlight on the realism of being in a chair, instead of some of the fictional shows that portray stereotypical images.
Actually, I think it would be an interesting series that focused an hour each week on a different, maybe remarkable, chairdude and the life they live. We might convert more chicks to Devism!!! lol
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