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Post by Inigo Montoya on Jun 22, 2008 22:50:31 GMT -5
The cure thread made me wonder if everything was cured....
What do you think would happen to our devness? Would we be left with some longing that we couldn't name? Would it go away?
And Claire, what do you imagine would happen with BIID? Do you think it would have any bearing on your condition? Intensify? Or bring relief?
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Post by faith on Jun 24, 2008 10:59:41 GMT -5
Clover- I think, if there were no SCI at all, no hot guys in chairs anywhere, it feelings would diminish. We wouldn't be constantly reminded by wheelchairs or the little blue guy signs or vans with lifts. We would stop looking for those things because they wouldn't exist. Whatever hope we have in finding the right wheeler guy would just be gone.
Would there be an emptiness? It is hard to know, or even imagine.
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Post by laurasweetou on Jun 27, 2008 4:53:57 GMT -5
I know I'm late on answering this, thunderstorme... I know some hotties the dont want to be cured, personally and over the net.
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Post by Claire on Jun 29, 2008 21:33:17 GMT -5
Clover, forgive my tardy response; I have been on vacation, and though I had Internet access, I was purposely avoiding PD because 1) I didn't want any PD unpleasantness to intrude upon my peace of mind and 2) didn't want the family with whom I am sharing a small hotel room to see what was on the screen! It's an interesting question, and one that I've mulled over before, with others. What would we do if they figured out how to cure spinal cord injuries? It's hard to say, really, without knowing for sure what actually causes BIID, but if the recent research indicating that it's a neurological problem in the brain is correct, then a cure for SCI wouldn't change BIID in and of itself. Speaking strictly for those who feel they need paralysis, we aren't really "para wannabes" or "SCI wannabes" although unfortunately we've called ourselves that for so long that the name is likely here to stay. We feel like something is wrong with the way our body is, and we've learned that the condition that is closest to what we need is a spinal cord injury. Does that make any sense? We don't really need a spinal cord injury in and of itself...we need to lose awareness/control of our legs and an SCI is the only way we know of to get there. So an SCI doesn't really have anything to do with BIID except as the means to an end. Warning...if you are easily offended, read no further... Maybe if neurology advances enough to cure SCIs then they will be able to cure BIID too. But assuming they cure SCI and not BIID (which is the most likely scenario, since there are so few of us nobody really cares about finding a cure...even the research that is being done on BIID is being done because the researcher believes that learning about BIID will give him clues about how the brain processes body image, and not because he actually set out to cure BIID [sorry for being so parenthetical]), perhaps it would make it easier for us to get what we need through surgery, since it would then not be so final, so absolute, in the minds of the medicos. Or, if surgery remains out of the question, knowing that there is a cure for SCI might actually induce more of us to attempt self-injury. And this isn't so much because of a fear of regrets (since we already know that virtually all successful amputee wannabes have no regrets) but because attempting such a thing is dangerous and imprecise (I don't want to be a quad any more than anyone else does). But then you have to wonder, if we achieved paralysis, would they allow us to stay there, if we wanted? And if we achieved paralysis, and were allowed to remain so, then how would we explain to everyone why we were still paralyzed, after paralysis had been cured? So, it might intensify, in that it may seem like it would then be impossible to ever align our bodies with our body image, or it might bring relief, in that it might be easier to get paralyzed in the first place. Sorry; rather than answering your question, I've only created more! And probably opened up a can of worms or two, as well.
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Post by charlene on Jul 4, 2008 1:09:22 GMT -5
All I know is, that I would be sooo freaking happy if there was a cure. As for my devness, I would just do with old youtube videos or shywheel's quad porn.
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Post by charlene on Aug 17, 2008 11:52:39 GMT -5
OK, I know I am not supposed to post on this section of the forum, but I just had to. I been in a wheelchair since 1997, and I still wish everyday that there was a cure. I have been paralyzed from the upper chest for 11 years, but I still remember how it felt to not be paralyzed. When ever I have dreams at night, I am up walking around and I experience sensations (pain, pleasure...etc) while dreaming. ... It's like all of the sensations are stored in my brain, but I can't experience them. P.S. And this is probably the most shallow reason that I want a cure, but I haven't had an orgasm in 11 years It sucks because I get full erections two or three times a day. It is like putting a plate of food in front of a starving man, and telling him that he can't have anything to eat I think you wheeler guys should be more respectful. You're right, you're not supposed to post here, considering that we had the cure subject in the general section as well.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Aug 17, 2008 20:09:16 GMT -5
I'm sorry I asked this question. I didn't do it well. It is NOT that I don't want a cure or would wish SCI on anyone, but only that what we are hinges on that. And here lately, I've been a little sick of myself and what I am.
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Post by charlene on Aug 19, 2008 0:29:10 GMT -5
I'm sorry I asked this question. I didn't do it well. It is NOT that I don't want a cure or would wish SCI on anyone, but only that what we are hinges on that. And here lately, I've been a little sick of myself and what I am. Please Clover, don't be sorry. I think we got your question right. Every dev has moments when they feel just like you do now.
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Post by Claire on Aug 20, 2008 6:54:09 GMT -5
I agree with Charlene, Clover. Being a dev means we deal with hard questions like this. It's part of it. If we can't work it out here I don't know where we can.
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Post by dionisia on Oct 3, 2008 18:35:28 GMT -5
I am with charlaine on this, i would be really happy. The other day my b/f came back at me about the devness thing with something like....""if you were a dev you wouldnt think about me being healed and yet you do...how does that work?? would you not like me if i was cured??"" and it really freak me out for a second because i know how contradictory it sounds, but as much of a turn on that him being in a chair is, it would make me really happy if he could experience all the things i know he wish he could and can't. (things that go from simple life pleasures as walking in the beach to major life pleasures as a physical orgasm)....so...i guess i would rapidly sacrifice my little fetish for his walking back....happily. I don't think, if there werent any wheelers, the devness would go away...at least not to us that already have a concept for it...maybe for future generations that wouldnt know what paralysis means....althou...maybe at the sight of it in an old movie, some ppl would experience a weird unsettling feeling that they wouldnt be able to recognize...jejeje just a fictional thought.
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