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Post by Dee Dee on Jan 25, 2011 4:13:43 GMT -5
Welcome back dear fruit .
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Post by Pony on Jan 25, 2011 9:29:52 GMT -5
"Really love your peaches, wanna shake your tree...' hehe Muuuaaahhhhhhh
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Post by thegoodlife on Jan 26, 2011 16:08:58 GMT -5
Annnd they are outta here. What happened peaches!?
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Post by peaches on Jan 28, 2011 0:46:06 GMT -5
Annnd they are outta here. What happened peaches!? you really wanna know what happened?! Honestly. For one, I was drunk. Two, I copped too much flak for having an opinion that was contrary to other peoples. Its BS. I'm at a point in my life where I realise I can't be fucked with BS. Im happy for other people to have opinions. Thats what makes everyone so unique and interesting. But I don't like how mean y'all can get. I mean, fuck. Everyone pigeon-holes people. Its the nature of the game of life. Wheelers should know. You're known as "disabled dudes", or whatever. I'm known as the short asian chick (amongst other things) We label because its helpful for our brains to categorize people for future reference. And, btw, I didn't say Nice guys don't finish EVER. I just said they finish last. Its a general expression and I still stand by it. Reading some of your conversations (Thanks Matisse for some support ) what you've been saying basically agrees with it. I'm not talking statistics or everyones idea of what "nice" encompasses. Fuck it. Thats all I'll say. So in conclusion, I didn't plan on coming back. Like I said, I was bored (slash, drunk) and I didn't expect to feel like shit from a community I used to enjoy. (Though I understand I came back randomly and jumped into your conversation where most of you I don't "know" at all. All the peeps I used to talk to on here are mostly gone) So cheers for that. My bad. I'm outty.
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Post by dolly on Jan 28, 2011 1:10:11 GMT -5
you really wanna know what happened?! Honestly. For one, I was drunk. Two, I copped too much flak for having an opinion that was contrary to other peoples. Its BS. I'm at a point in my life where I realise I can't be f*cked with BS. Im happy for other people to have opinions. Thats what makes everyone so unique and interesting. But I don't like how mean y'all can get. I mean, f*ck. Everyone pigeon-holes people. Its the nature of the game of life. Wheelers should know. You're known as "disabled dudes", or whatever. I'm known as the short asian chick (amongst other things) We label because its helpful for our brains to categorize people for future reference. And, btw, I didn't say Nice guys don't finish EVER. I just said they finish last. Its a general expression and I still stand by it. Reading some of your conversations (Thanks Matisse for some support ) what you've been saying basically agrees with it. I'm not talking statistics or everyones idea of what "nice" encompasses. f*ck it. Thats all I'll say. So in conclusion, I didn't plan on coming back. Like I said, I was bored (slash, drunk) and I didn't expect to feel like sh*t from a community I used to enjoy. (Though I understand I came back randomly and jumped into your conversation where most of you I don't "know" at all. All the peeps I used to talk to on here are mostly gone) So cheers for that. My bad. I'm outty. you sparked what i thought was an interesting conversation which had pretty much nothing to do with you personally.
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Post by Emma on Jan 28, 2011 2:28:58 GMT -5
I agree it was good to see your input and I was not in the least bit offended by you in fact I appreciated someone being honest. I hope you stay and contribute again. I'd like to get to know you.
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Post by roger888 on Jan 28, 2011 3:58:18 GMT -5
Annnd they are outta here. What happened peaches!? When you have the maturity to accept some abrasive,honest criticism,then you will have the chance to cope with a long term relationship,but don't think you can learn that from a text book.
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Post by Dee Dee on Jan 28, 2011 5:07:46 GMT -5
I didn't expect to feel like sh*t from a community I used to enjoy. Exactly. It really is too bad .
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Post by A££Y "Cuddles" Magoo on Jan 28, 2011 16:50:46 GMT -5
hmmmmm I don't remember the post in question. did I comment on it? Link?
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Post by E on Jan 29, 2011 13:04:32 GMT -5
hmmmmm I don't remember the post in question. did I comment on it? Link? It's likely been deleted.
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Post by E on Jan 29, 2011 13:16:19 GMT -5
you really wanna know what happened?! Honestly. For one, I was drunk. Two, I copped too much flak for having an opinion that was contrary to other peoples. Its BS. I'm at a point in my life where I realise I can't be f*cked with BS. Im happy for other people to have opinions. Thats what makes everyone so unique and interesting. But I don't like how mean y'all can get. I mean, f*ck. Everyone pigeon-holes people. Its the nature of the game of life. Wheelers should know. You're known as "disabled dudes", or whatever. I'm known as the short asian chick (amongst other things) We label because its helpful for our brains to categorize people for future reference. And, btw, I didn't say Nice guys don't finish EVER. I just said they finish last. Its a general expression and I still stand by it. Reading some of your conversations (Thanks Matisse for some support ) what you've been saying basically agrees with it. I'm not talking statistics or everyones idea of what "nice" encompasses. f*ck it. Thats all I'll say. So in conclusion, I didn't plan on coming back. Like I said, I was bored (slash, drunk) and I didn't expect to feel like sh*t from a community I used to enjoy. (Though I understand I came back randomly and jumped into your conversation where most of you I don't "know" at all. All the peeps I used to talk to on here are mostly gone) So cheers for that. My bad. I'm outty. you sparked what i thought was an interesting conversation which had pretty much nothing to do with you personally. I didn't expect to feel like sh*t from a community I used to enjoy. Exactly. It really is too bad . 1. Dolly wins every time. 2. Holy sensitivity. Grow some thicker skin, for God's sake. Get over yourselves. Seriously. What sheltered world do you live in? If the differing of opinion/slight criticism you've received in these posts, this "meanness", was the worst I received in one MORNING... I think I'd be off to a pretty remarkable day. It hardly warrants suddenly feeling like a total outcast. If you voice a thought or idea, someone is going to disagree. And here's the truth: If no one has ever disagreed with you before, or if no one has ever been opposed to an idea you've expressed, possibly passionately, then you've never said anything original or noteworthy.
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Post by peaches on Jan 30, 2011 18:01:00 GMT -5
1. Dolly wins every time. 2. Holy sensitivity. Grow some thicker skin, for God's sake. Get over yourselves. Seriously. What sheltered world do you live in? If the differing of opinion/ slight criticism you've received in these posts, this "meanness", was the worst I received in one MORNING... I think I'd be off to a pretty remarkable day. It hardly warrants suddenly feeling like a total outcast. If you voice a thought or idea, someone is going to disagree. And here's the truth: If no one has ever disagreed with you before, or if no one has ever been opposed to an idea you've expressed, possibly passionately, then you've never said anything original or noteworthy. E, you may be a smart man, but you can be an asshole. 1) What sheltered world do "we" live in. look around you. This is a community of people who use screen names and don't really tell you anything personal. They've created a world where they can explore the things they like and keep out the things/people they don't. (likely me soon) This board is a bunch of yes-people (with the exception of a few. Myself, and you included) People jump on each others backs at the drop of a hat. If you don't believe me, sift through a few of the threads--the amount of people that feel unwelcome and become lurkers again or just delete their membership, is ridiculous. The reason you have a few core people on the board is because y'all are used to the key personalities on the board. you've formed relationships of sorts and if a newb doesn't fall in line quickly they are pretty much left flailing in the wind. We live in a world of people wanting acceptance. Craving acknowledgement that they are a valid person. Differing opinion or not, you know this board is a written format of communication. Your words are taken at face-value, since we can't see the face behind it. Basic politeness and intentions wouldn't go astray-unless you ARE trying to offend someone. 2) If you receive a lot of flak in your everyday life E, I feel sorry for you. I know people are rude and selfish. But I try to surround myself with people who care about someone elses feelings, and try to rectify situations in a way that will not piss on who they are as a person. Sensitivity or not. That maybe a sheltered life, but f*ck. Sometimes you need shelter from a storm of angry people. And I know you're a bible quoter. So you should know the whole, "Love your neighbour as you love yourself" commandment. I don't see a lot of that in your post. Peace out.
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Post by alibara1 on Jan 30, 2011 19:42:40 GMT -5
Hiii, I really dont know which link you guys are talking about, buuut...being a free and open forum I am going to contribute. Have pm people here saying that i don't feel (called me sheltered as well) like to contributing much, feeling that Ill might saying something really stupid or being critisased for whatever...naivity, not knowing how to write things properly, spelling, being patronising...who knows...but the fact is a lot of people can become a bit tooo sensitive, etc...sooo maybe, just maybe, Peaches has got a point in many parts of her post...again it is my opinion ...huggs to all
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Post by E on Jan 30, 2011 23:24:51 GMT -5
1. Dolly wins every time. 2. Holy sensitivity. Grow some thicker skin, for God's sake. Get over yourselves. Seriously. What sheltered world do you live in? If the differing of opinion/ slight criticism you've received in these posts, this "meanness", was the worst I received in one MORNING... I think I'd be off to a pretty remarkable day. It hardly warrants suddenly feeling like a total outcast. If you voice a thought or idea, someone is going to disagree. And here's the truth: If no one has ever disagreed with you before, or if no one has ever been opposed to an idea you've expressed, possibly passionately, then you've never said anything original or noteworthy. E, you may be a smart man, but you can be an asshole. Let me quote this before it disappears. Fruit: agreed, on both points. I may be smart, but I can definitely be an asshole. I don't think these traits are mutually exclusive. However, in this case, I'm not so sure about the latter. I have no idea how this applies to anything I said about being sheltered/incapable of being disagreed with. I don't believe you, really. Except for rare instances, I see some remarkable tolerance here for an Internet message board and the member retention rate is EXCEPTIONALLY high for a message board. I suspect most people (that I'd prefer stayed) left due to the waves of idiocy that sweep this place. Not true. New members often come in and stick around with great success. Emma, Aphrodite, Lavly, Neffie, RuthMadison, trinity, thegoodlife, Elli, BAYA... all fairly new members that have been well received and are getting along quite nicely. Some people don't. That's not our fault. I don't receive a lot of flak in my every day life, but this stuff was really trivial. Here's the longer version of what I was initially trying to say when I suggested you (and Miss Diva) grow thicker skin. And since you claimed I'm a Bible quoter, I'll use a Biblical example. In order to get to the Promised Land, you have to walk through the Wilderness. I'm used to stepping outside of my comfort zone. I push the limits of myself. I implement ideas and take directions that are new and creative. I do this because I know that outside my comfort zone, in the wilderness of the unknown, lies the greatest rewards. When you do this, though -- when you have an idea that is bold, different, and new -- some people will support you, but some will tell you that you are wrong. When lots of money is at stake, they may not be very polite about it. Feelings can get hurt. And sometimes I am wrong. The only people who never make mistakes are the people who never do anything. But that's the price of being an independent thinker, of trying things others wouldn't dare, of voicing an opinion worth voicing, one that not everyone will agree with. But the more I do this, the better I can handle differing opinions and harsh criticism. And the fact that you're getting so upset over something so mild makes me think you tend to exist in your comfort zone, where you never say anything against the grain. And that's a sad way to live a life -- forever existing in absolute safety, never venturing outside into uncharted territory. I've given talks to an audience of angry people infuriated by my choices. And I've given speeches peppered by standing ovations. You can't get one without the other. You say my post lacked love for my neighbor. I think just the opposite. My advice to thicken your skin, to be less sensitive, to be more accepting of disagreement and discord, to blossom in routes and ideas off the beaten path, to handle negativity in stride as an acceptable consequence of risk... I think giving that advice is a loving thing to do, and taking it could truly improve your life forever. You have a Promise Land of milk and honey. But you have to take risks to get there. You have to endure pain and discomfort. But as you go through REAL stuff, little stuff like this won't bother you. And that's a blessing all its own.
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Post by peaches on Jan 31, 2011 2:08:32 GMT -5
E, you may be a smart man, but you can be an asshole. Let me quote this before it disappears. Fair enough. Fruit: agreed, on both points. I may be smart, but I can definitely be an asshole. I don't think these traits are mutually exclusive. However, in this case, I'm not so sure about the latter. 2. Holy sensitivity. Grow some thicker skin, for God's sake. Get over yourselves. Seriously. What sheltered world do you live in? = assholey. 1) What sheltered world do "we" live in. look around you. This is a community of people who use screen names and don't really tell you anything personal. They've created a world where they can explore the things they like and keep out the things/people they don't. I have no idea how this applies to anything I said about being sheltered/incapable of being disagreed with. = What sheltered world do you live in? If the differing of opinion/slight criticism you've received in these posts, this "meanness"... ...It hardly warrants suddenly feeling like a total outcast. THIS is the sheltered world "we" live in. I answered your question. The explanation is obvious. FAQ saids: Q: What is the purpose of this website? A: This website is primarily for devotees of disabled men. We would like this site to be a resource for devotees, a place to enjoy stories about our favorite subject, and find more information about books, movies and other sites that may be of interest. Many devotees are obsessive by nature, and we would like this site to be a safe, enjoyable outlet for that obsession. Differing opinion or not, you know this board is a written format of communication. Your words are taken at face-value, since we can't see the face behind it. Basic politeness and intentions wouldn't go astray-unless you ARE trying to offend someone. I didn't say about people being completely intolerant of peoples opinion. I stated that its more HOW people come across on here. In corrosponding with the board guidelines I'd say we are BOTH out of line--slightly. I don't believe you, really. Except for rare instances, I see some remarkable tolerance here for an Internet message board and the member retention rate is EXCEPTIONALLY high for a message board. I suspect most people (that I'd prefer stayed) left due to the waves of idiocy that sweep this place... Not true. New members often come in and stick around with great success. Emma, Aphrodite, Lavly, Neffie, RuthMadison, trinity, thegoodlife, Elli, BAYA... all fairly new members that have been well received and are getting along quite nicely. I'll concede this. Coz I guess you would know since you've been here forever. This is the only message board I've ever been on, so I have no idea about other forums. You have to admit there is a high number of members who have been pounced on for having a differing opinion or what not; then they quickly delete their membership and leave, or go back to lurk mode. And if we're looking at the success rate of how many new members that affiliate into the "in-crowd" compared to those who post once or twice and never again/delete and run. I think speaks for itself. Some people don't. That's not our fault. I never said it was. I said it happens, and this is why. But I never said its your 'fault'. The reason you have a few core people on the board is because y'all are used to the key personalities on the board. you've formed relationships of sorts and if a newb doesn't fall in line quickly they are pretty much left flailing in the wind. = Leads me to believe you expect shit in your life. I admit, partially trivial in the grand scheme of things. But people talk about so much shit on here that has nothing to do with the purpose of the board and can still have debates over what was said. So yeah, idiocy is rampant on this board. Basic politeness and intentions wouldn't go astray-unless you ARE trying to offend someone. = This is what I was saying. The tone of this post is a hell of a lot "nicer" (Haha!) than what was said initially. Granted the first one was less wordy. And, I think you can tell by my posts, E, that I have no probs going against the grain. I also have no probs being honest if I think I've been short-changed. I call BS how I see it. Trivial or not. Also, I've been through a ton of shit you know nothing about. Maybe not as physical of challenges as most of y'all, but its taught me a lot of shit that you have NEVER experienced. I'm a stronger person than a lot of people. At the end of the day, E. It wasn't about having differing opinions. It was the tone of the WRITTEN reply. That without a face, emotions and a WORDY explanation, people can get offended. So what if you don't care and its not your place to baby them. The point is, I had an opinion. I felt like people pissed on it(granted I was hammered when reading it as well). Your defending the right to a differing-opinion option, but what was mine then? Its a two way thing. We either agree with each other, or disagree. The difference in the acceptance of said reaction is ALWAYS in the execution. (Refer back to the board guidelines.) I said, "= NICE GUYS FINISH LAST. Blahblah, woofwoof... This is what I read: Nice guys don't finish last. Whiners do. Well I think f*ck niceness and niceguy finishes last philosophies. This "nice guys finish last" BS makes me sooooo mad. My perception might differ from others (D'uh), but I took it as a golden shower all over my fucken face. (And before you say anything, yep. Its outta context. But refer to my previous statement of being loaded when reading.)
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