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Post by E on Jun 17, 2007 15:03:31 GMT -5
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Post by Cake on Jun 17, 2007 18:32:45 GMT -5
I can only second everything that AB said. Women's fantasies are complex and involve lots of emotion. The "story line" is more like a long drama movie or even a series than a midnight porn. And yes, sex is an important part of it, too. It's just... more complicated. In fact I think our fantasies would probably bore you guys. If every one of us dev-ladies wrote down her favorite (and VERY long fantasy), you'd realize very quickly that not half of it is the sort of fantasy that would turn YOU on...
And I also agree on not taking the thread down, Tony. I think it's an interesting subject and I'm sure there's a lot about it that could bring us interesting discussions. What you won't get here are smoking hot secrets. Besides, a woman's fantasy world (especially when she's a devotee) is one of most sacred things she possesses. If you ever meet a dev who tells you all her fantasies, you can be sure that she's either very, very drunk OR trusts you more than she trusts anyone else in the world.
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Post by matisse on Jun 17, 2007 19:04:01 GMT -5
Funny thing is, the whole dev thing in a way can cancel out a lot of the typical romance stuff that we guys don't like. Think about it--you've got a Saturday free, and you decide that you & your dev are going to go to the grocery store. You're driving, so you transfer in to drive. You get to the grocery store, and you transfer out. In the grocery store, you're reaching high and low to get stuff. Now you've got to get all that stuff into the trunk. Then it's a couple of transfers again to get back home and in the house. Now you're putting all the stuff away. Lots of work!! Then it's time to grill some lunch. You're there marinating the chicken, sticking it on the grill, filipping it, etc. You make some mixed drinks, and it's time to eat. After, you're off to the shower from all that effort!! More transfers.
By the time you're out of the shower, your dev inexplicably attacks you, horny as hell!!! Your "work" has become foreplay!!!!
Now tell me again why there aren't more wheelers and devs hooking up?!?!??!
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Post by Pony on Jun 17, 2007 19:06:21 GMT -5
Well cool, your Cakeness...I'm glad you put that into words. You're very articulate and always insightful. What you said is interesting to me about Dev fantasies, and I wasn't really expecting hardcore porn fantasies to be revealed, but I was/am curious about them because I know how I fantasize, and how I fantasized before I got hurt. It's like a mental-masterbation, and I personally think it's healthy for the brain. I didn't realize how sacred these fantasies were, but I'm still learning about this thang called "Devness."
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Post by Claire on Jun 17, 2007 20:42:31 GMT -5
I can only second everything that AB said. Women's fantasies are complex and involve lots of emotion. The "story line" is more like a long drama movie or even a series than a midnight porn. And yes, sex is an important part of it, too. It's just... more complicated. In fact I think our fantasies would probably bore you guys. If every one of us dev-ladies wrote down her favorite (and VERY long fantasy), you'd realize very quickly that not half of it is the sort of fantasy that would turn YOU on... What she said!! My favorite fantasy has gone on for years. It could be a novel.
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Post by Ouch on Jun 17, 2007 20:43:03 GMT -5
1. They're married already (they discovered they're 'Devoteeism' before there was a way to interact comfortably with the objects of their desire/it was very strongly frowned upon at the time) 2. They're already hooked up...you're a day late and a dollar (pound, rupee, euro, mark, yen, [insert currency here]) short. 3. They don't know they're 'Devotees' yet, they're still figuring out the whole thing. 4. They know they're 'Devotees', but they're (justifiably) afraid/nervous about the whole thing...they may be questioning themselves (they are women after all), think they're freaks of nature and are trying to suppress the 'Devotee urge'. 5. Who the hell wants to be with us...we're a bunch of bums (and we smell funny too). 6. We crashed their happy Devotee party they were having amongst their own. 7. They secretly all desire me, and my ultimate awesomeness...sucks for y'all. Yes, the Devotee Fantasies...they all are whisped away in the magic tome - Codex Devoto. ...some of us have a lot of time on our hands (oh okay, only me)...you'd be surprised... ...but I smell a money-making venture here...diary your fantasies...and make a book, sell it (under an alias)... Devoted: Diaries of a Devotee...as for an alias, Ms. Cake, may I suggest Devil's Food (or perhaps you're more the Angel?)?
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Post by Cake on Jun 17, 2007 21:35:56 GMT -5
My favorite fantasy has gone on for years. It could be a novel. Wow, another thing of which I didn't know that I wasn't the only one there! My "novel" is very epic, too. I think I started it in my early teens. (or perhaps you're more the Angel?)? Hell, no!
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Post by Valkyrja on Jun 18, 2007 0:02:01 GMT -5
The woman uses more the metaphors but, at the end, they mean the same thing. For example (at least in my country) many symbolisms are used in feminine erotic stories. "Her lusty legs, like columns carved in brass, spread leaving an open breach to glimpse the jewel that they kept so jealously: the perfect pearl of the pleasure" Different words, same thing. In that phrase you have the words "cum", "clit", "hard" but disguised. Just different narrative.
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Post by Triassic on Jun 18, 2007 9:25:16 GMT -5
No, I was kidding. I know dev fantasies aren't like Penthouse Forum BS. I actually have a pretty good idea of how they go-like the stories in the fiction section.
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Post by mrjefffurz on Jun 18, 2007 14:09:40 GMT -5
this all brings to light the fact that men are... generally... hands-on, visual & tend to look upon things in straight line, linear terms...ie. "a picture is worth a thousand words" in their vision of the world while women are,,,generally... more cerebral, celestial, and prone to study the many facets of any hypothetical situation... "a thousand words paint a beautiful picture"...an example i use to explain the different ways men & women think is to ask the question,,,while examining a car..."do u think i need new tires?",,,a woman might answer with thoughts of how old the tires are,,,the typical driving (in town?,,,highway?) that the questioner does,,,where she got there her last set of tires,,,,& whether white walls would look nice,,,,ask the same question of a dude & the answer would be "yep"
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Post by Ouch on Jun 19, 2007 10:20:24 GMT -5
Well I thought I would stay out of this...but the ladies have us guys penned wrong and right all in one...
...what Mr. J says about us is pretty much correct; (and I was just reading an article about this, in which they used new tires as an example...strangeness) If someone asked should they get new tires, a man will most likely give a direct answer - 'Yes' or 'No', a woman, may take steps to get to 'yes' or 'no' or 'maybe' or 'what do you think?', she would look at the conditions of the tires, take cost into account, etc.
It can actually be compared to how a computer [program] works...Men stick to simple boolean responses, but behind the scenes, they really are processing, everything the woman is also considering...The men just have a process of: If tire = worn { replace = 1 (true)}; else { evaluate.nextStatus} Men go about evaluating the condition of the tire, and ultimately will only output at the final stage: If tire = needsReplacement { System.out.print "Yes"}
Women however usually output statements at each stage of evaluation instead of at the final stage as shown above...
How we deal with fantasy is quite similar...it's like women pay with cash if they were stopping at several errands, going through the whole process of the purchase, while men use a credit card...we've both gone to the same place, but in much different ways.
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Post by matisse on Jun 19, 2007 15:04:54 GMT -5
It really surprises me how little women truly know about men. Most men think the same way you ladies do. They just get to the punch line sooner. If you ask a man what his fantasy is, he will tell you pretty women, easy, sex, the end. However, if you slow him down and ask him what emotions he's thinking during the fantasies the short story then becomes a novel. My fantasies involve, love, romance, peace from the world, I could tell what her hair smelled like and the way a little bit of saliva sticks between her lips when she opened her mouth to talk but before and words come out. Now being in a chair the brain and emotions are even more a part of my sex life. I don't believe you, are you just saying this in order to get chicks interested??!?!?! How does "peace from the world" fit into any fantasy?
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Post by promale on Jun 19, 2007 19:46:45 GMT -5
I'd guess
peace from the world = relief from stress
Matisse, you didn't ride a short bus to school did you?
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Post by Ouch on Jun 19, 2007 21:04:46 GMT -5
I'd guess
promale = projerk
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Post by E on Jun 20, 2007 9:31:00 GMT -5
I'd guess peace from the world = relief from stress Matisse, you didn't ride a short bus to school did you? I rode a short bus to school. Y'know, the wheelchair and all. Go figure.
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