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Post by wheelzoffortune on May 2, 2016 13:13:35 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. I'm pretty sure my works are available for free on other sites, but I don't know what to do about it.
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Post by Dav_4_Dev_UK on May 3, 2016 7:27:41 GMT -5
Good advice Braced...not that I'm an author but handy to know nevertheless.
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Post by Ath on May 3, 2016 8:57:09 GMT -5
That sucks
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Post by devogirl on May 3, 2016 8:59:19 GMT -5
Try contacting the website host, it might be a TOS violation to post stolen material. It's a longshot but worth trying.
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Post by Ximena on May 3, 2016 13:43:03 GMT -5
Yeah, I found pirated copies of my published novel online awhile ago, but there's not too much to be done about it, unfortunately. It's sad when I already offer I/E for free, but what can you do?
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Post by blueskye101 on May 3, 2016 14:12:32 GMT -5
That does truly suck. Seems like anyone can claim anything including your identity and get away with it. Can you go on the site the stories on and say something there whoever took them wouldn't care but maybe the readers would shame them a bit.
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Post by jalapeno on May 3, 2016 16:10:20 GMT -5
Pro tip: Always google yourself.
Got it!
and as a bonus, now I have an excuse for googling myself, I'm not vain, or curious what people are saying about me, I am just simply checking to see if my work and copyrights are being infringed upon.
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Post by matisse on May 3, 2016 17:25:48 GMT -5
It appears to be google docs. They say they will review copyright infringements, but if they determine the violator wasn't in breach, the legal fees would fall on the accuser. At this point, whatever. WTF? What are they going to do, send you a bill? This doesn't smell right. I started the reporting process and up to the point where it asks to point them to the info, it said nothing about charging me. Where did you find this "policy?"
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Post by matisse on May 3, 2016 18:21:50 GMT -5
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Post by matisse on May 3, 2016 18:33:01 GMT -5
If they get multiple requests from different people, they will know there's an issue.....and if they don't do anything they could be held liable.
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Post by happyface2013 on May 4, 2016 16:45:09 GMT -5
Damn I'm not being pirated yet lol
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Post by mike on May 6, 2016 15:43:56 GMT -5
Braced, you face a bit of a quandary; if the person stealing your copyrighted material is small, the threat of a lawsuit might intimidate them, but normally there is nothing to go after, so it becomes a Pyrrhic victory at best. Conversely, if the entity is large, such as Google Docs, they could be expected to have deep pockets. This may make them an attractive target, but at the same time they become a formidable opponent with lots of resources (lot's of legal prowess).
I'm not a lawyer, but have experience in the field (patent, not copyright). It can be very difficult to prevail over large entities, but it is possible. For many large entities it becomes simpler to simply stop infringing, because even though they would likely prevail in any legal proceedings the process is still expensive for them. They wouldn't necessarily prevail because they are right, but simple economics come into play.
As an inventor, I have been down that path. Ultimately I was able to prevail, but it was a very expensive crap-shoot.
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Post by matisse on May 6, 2016 17:15:25 GMT -5
I'll probably do nothing in the end Seesh dude they stole your stuff!!! It takes a couple minutes to write the letter. I don't know how to find an ISP if it's not listed, but others here probably do. Dear____: I am writing pursuant to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, Section [__] ("DMCA"). In accordance with this statute, I am providing notice that you are hosting a website that is infringing a copyrighted work of mine by copying it, storing it and making it available for viewing or copying by others, without my permission and without any compensation to me. Under the DMCA, you have until [insert] to [do whatever they're supposed to do]. Failure to do so will remove you from the safe harbor and subject you to direct liability for the infringement of my work. Below are links to the infringement: [insert] I'm not a copyright lawyer, I don't know the specifics of what they have to do by when, but that's just a google away. You could probably also google "sample DMCA takedown" to make sure your letter includes everything it's supposed to include. This is different from patent law because ISPs probably get these letters all the time, and probably have settled procedures for dealing with them. It wouldn't surprise me if their default procedures is to take down the thing right away, and force the person who put it up to do some work to get it back up if it is not an infringement. Get those fuckers!!!
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Post by matisse on May 6, 2016 17:27:22 GMT -5
The problem is I didn't DRM protect it, I have no grounds to stand on. DRM is not a perquisite for a valid copyright. Think about it--go to a bookstore, get a book and copy it, and you're infringing even though the book wouldn't have any anti-copying technology.
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Post by mike on May 6, 2016 19:00:50 GMT -5
matisse: you're correct in that copyright and patent laws are completely different, but the similarity is the whole issue of defending your patent/copyright, recovering damages, the issue of defendant's size & whether doing something legally makes any sense. The steps to recovery are different, but the math is quite similar.
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