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Post by shape on Apr 24, 2018 19:59:19 GMT -5
Ok, so let me get this right. A guy who states a fact, like it or not it is a fact, but saying that he sees he might have more to offer than the caveman and dickheads is pretentious. But hey, if you do it in public you're an asshole, but... mrniceguy said: *if you have to do it on the backs of others, that’s just dirty pool.* (I don't know why this part got lost) So how does he have to post it? He wanted to post it all in devs only through me, as I hope you so clever men must have guessed it's aimed to devs (and no cavemen) But I just thought the feedback would be impossible as he respects the devs only section. And, honestly, his journey to finally end up here is interesting in my honest and humble opinion. So I told him to post it here. But, even though I have to say I am still shocked it had to be @mrniceguy who jumped right to the throat of a new user, amongst others I might not be so shocked ( James, maybe, sorry about being honest), I should have thought about the competitiveness here, and figure out some would feel threatened and bark about something they have little idea... Or maybe some of you have any idea about posting cavemen profile sentences and censurable pictures??? Guys, trust me, I could travel all around the world in 80 dicks pics. No joke. And the journey itself is forgotten. But hey, nothing wrong. You can express yourself without any respect if that's your style. Nice guys usually are able to stand corrected. Thanks Mets for clarifying what your intentions are. @mrniceguy, I am mad at you. Thought you actually were a nice guy and not a strong/dick head... Really So, here's the root of disagreement in this case for me. I didn't read anything about dick pics or even the overly aggressive behavior that I've spoken out against in the past. The way I read his post was someone new coming here and stating for the ladies that their suffering of dumb guys with small vocabularies was over and the fact that most of the guys here have inferior language skills in comparison to his. As far as being pretentious, I couldn't care less. I know from experience that some people are drawn to that, to each their own. This has nothing to do with competitiveness for me. If a dev came here and posted to the guys that she was prettier than the rest of you, wouldn't that piss you off? That was how I read his post. But maybe I just read it wrong, it's happened to everyone. I guess that makes me a caveman/dickhead. Cavedick? Dickman? I'll leave that up to you. Ok "dicaveman". So what do you think I was talking about when saying "glorious" pictures? Still, you are not explaining how he should have posted it. In public: pretentious. On the backs: dirty pool. You can say whatever you want, and you might believe it yourself... But sure you haven't taken it personal and got jealous? Threatened? Why would you say he affirmed being better in communication than the rest of you???!! WHERE??!! Just sit down and read it again. Tomorrow. And you'll find out he wasn't even talking about this forum but a dating site. Will you try and chill, so that you can use your neurone(s?) And if you have read the rest of the posts, you'll see nobody else (well, James) got offended......... I still have faith in you...
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Post by shape on Apr 24, 2018 20:01:07 GMT -5
Seems @mrniceguy feels he's been bullied
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Post by wonk on Apr 24, 2018 21:45:05 GMT -5
Don't worry Lars, you don't have to be eloquent, just post pretty pictures
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 21:52:32 GMT -5
Seems @mrniceguy feels he's been bullied Not at all. I wasn’t offended, either. I was just pointing something out that I thought wasn’t right. I’m not exactly sure where you got that I took it as anything personal against me. Then again, I’ve seen you jump to more than one ridiculous conclusion on here so I can’t say that I’m surprised.
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Post by shape on Apr 24, 2018 21:56:50 GMT -5
Seems @mrniceguy feels he's been bullied Not at all. I wasn’t offended, either. I was just pointing something out that I thought wasn’t right. I’m not exactly sure where you got that I took it as anything personal against me. Then again, I’ve seen you jump to more than one ridiculous conclusion on here so I can’t say that I’m surprised. Ok, so no proving where he said he was better than the rest of you... My conclusions... You're not proving this *clumpsy helpless woman* wrong. So I will just leave it there. Sadly, I gave up.
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Post by mona on Apr 25, 2018 4:34:02 GMT -5
The way I read his post was someone new coming here and stating for the ladies that their suffering of dumb guys with small vocabularies was over and the fact that most of the guys here have inferior language skills in comparison to his. As far as being pretentious, I couldn't care less. I know from experience that some people are drawn to that, to each their own. This has nothing to do with competitiveness for me. If a dev came here and posted to the guys that she was prettier than the rest of you, wouldn't that piss you off? That was how I read his post. But maybe I just read it wrong, it's happened to everyone. @mrniceguy, I read something completely different in that post. I thought - as others posted above - the website in question was the British "enable dating" and not PD. You might argue that even then, it's not okay to point out the weaknesses of others. But I actually think it's refreshing and important that someone says openly what most women have experienced on dating sites: It's not just sad but actually annoying and insulting how little effort a lot of men put into their profiles. You can't explain this phenomenon with a lack of educational opportunities. And I think your comparison with prettiness is inappropriate. Firstly, whether someone is seen as pretty or not is a rather subjective judgement. Secondly, being pretty is nothing that the person has earned, in most cases. Being able to write something meaningful, that goes a little beyond what everyone says, is the result of some effort that people on these sites, disabled or not, should be willing to make. This should go without saying, but it doesn't (well, the only exception is if you look like lars...). Also, I saw a clear connection to the first post where he describes himself as an extremely insecure person who sees his deafness as a big impediment in his search for love. He then tells us about how he felt assured when he realized that he had some trump card in this game - his linguistic competencies. This is how I read it.
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Post by happyface2013 on Apr 25, 2018 4:37:51 GMT -5
Ah I love the rows in this place. Now Zealandia you need to counter attack to really stir things up..
Personally I think your just honest. Usually it's the devs that go after newbies, interesting change.
Welcome from Ireland btw
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Post by shape on Apr 25, 2018 4:46:31 GMT -5
I would like to say something, eloquently, but using the word "thing" way too often. I agree that it is a good thing to be eloquent (like, be able to say things that will make you achieve the intended thing). I am not sure about the thing you wanted to achieve with this thread though, and I thing, oops, think, that you might not have achieved it. Well, if you are not sure of what he wanted to achieve with this *thing* (thread?), then you might not have read the *things* (posts?) with all your attention, because he was clear about the *thing* (everything!!) 😎 P.s. check mona's interpretation. It might help you
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Post by robbb on Apr 25, 2018 4:58:00 GMT -5
Is the problem here actually language?
There is often a tendency these days, especially among younger people, to speak and write as though they are texting or emailing. Then there are people like myself, and I suspect Zealandia, who tend to speak and write quite formally. Add to the mix different cultures, languages, etc, then add in the fact that the written word actually has only the tone you choose to give it.
The nearest I ever got to meeting an SCI guy online was a guy in NYC who I met on here. Things were going well until he asked why I spoke like a dictionary, we had never actually spoken, only messaged.
I have read and re-read the OP. The only thing that stands out as something I peronally wouldn't use publicly is the use of the word 'available' when talking about potential dates. I certainly see nothing personal towards anyone on here, nothing to constitute bullying and nothing other than a comment about how some people choose to express themselves.
I do see the words of an eloquent person being honest about his experience of discovering that devs exist, and that something he had always seen as a negative in relationships actually could be a huge positive.
Zealandia, thanks for the post, welcome along (even if it hasn't been the warmest) and I hope you will stick around.
R.
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Post by malibu on Apr 25, 2018 5:01:38 GMT -5
I would like to say something, eloquently, but using the word "thing" way too often. I agree that it is a good thing to be eloquent (like, be able to say things that will make you achieve the intended thing). I am not sure about the thing you wanted to achieve with this thread though, and I thing, oops, think, that you might not have achieved it. Well, if you are not sure of what he wanted to achieve with this *thing* (thread?), then you might not have read the *things* (posts?) with all your attention, because he was clear about the *thing* (everything!!) 😎 P.s. check mona 's interpretation. It might help you the thing is, I agree with mona. good post, mona!!!
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Post by LaMara on Apr 25, 2018 5:10:38 GMT -5
It might also be interesting to explore how written language might be a more meaningful and less stressful way of communication for a person who was born profoundly deaf. But I will let zealandia decide if it’s a concept worth discussing
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Post by zealandia on Apr 25, 2018 6:47:10 GMT -5
Hi Lamara, thanks for your post. Yes, happy to discuss the written English as a main form of communication further if that's something you are interested in. Maybe message me to talk over?
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Post by shape on Apr 25, 2018 7:21:42 GMT -5
Hi Lamara, thanks for your post. Yes, happy to discuss the written English as a main form of communication further if that's something you are interested in. Maybe message me to talk over? It's a great point to discuss, but I understand if you don't want to share any of your honest opinions here anymore.
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Post by lucretia on Apr 25, 2018 11:03:02 GMT -5
Being able to write something meaningful, that goes a little beyond what everyone says, is the result of some effort that people on these sites, disabled or not, should be willing to make. This should go without saying, but it doesn't (well, the only exception is if you look like lars...). This made me 😂😂😂😂😂 Especially since lars IS quite eloquent. 😎
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Post by James on Apr 25, 2018 14:20:51 GMT -5
I don't know where you got that I was offended, I just said it was pretentious, because it was.
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