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Post by darthoso on Oct 6, 2020 19:23:36 GMT -5
Do not put it on your chair, way to easy to forget and go somewhere guns aren't allowed. You're a para, right? Ankle holster is probably a bad idea since you wouldn't know if it's missing or about to fall out. Make sure the gun is drop safe, like a Glock.
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Post by sy on Oct 6, 2020 19:25:47 GMT -5
Personally I don't think disabled people should have guns, and that's coming from a disabled person.
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Post by someonerandom on Oct 6, 2020 20:09:07 GMT -5
Everyone got their Michael Jackson eating popcorn gifs ready? Hehe
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Post by shadow on Oct 6, 2020 20:33:36 GMT -5
Personally I don't think disabled people should have guns, and that's coming from a disabled person. I’m really surprised by that. I know several guys in wheelchairs who own guns, I’d think that the type of disability would really make a big difference in that. It’s a pretty big sport for disabled veterans especially. They have competitions and it’s a game in the Paralympics too. I guess a larger part depends on your personal opinions on gun ownership too. My personal opinion is that women and pwds are exactly the type people who would benefit from owning a gun for personal protection (if they’re comfortable and want to own a gun of course!). A woman or pwd who can be seen as vulnerable without a gun is suddenly on the exact same playing field as a 300lb able bodied male intruder with a gun. If a pwd is able to safely handle it, there’s no reason that they shouldn’t be able to protect themselves like any other person.
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Post by Braced4Impact on Oct 6, 2020 21:08:34 GMT -5
Personally I don't think disabled people should have guns, and that's coming from a disabled person. Considering disabled people are less able to get away or defend themselves physically (punching, kicking etc) I would say a disabled person is someone who needs a gun more than others for self defense, and that's coming from a disabled person.
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Post by darthoso on Oct 6, 2020 21:30:31 GMT -5
Personally I don't think disabled people should have guns, and that's coming from a disabled person. I’m really surprised by that. I know several guys in wheelchairs who own guns, I’d think that the type of disability would really make a big difference in that. It’s a pretty big sport for disabled veterans especially. They have competitions and it’s a game in the Paralympics too. (loud) Gun policy aside, it should only depend on if can you safely handle the gun with your disability. Para, sure. SMA, hell no.
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Post by shadow on Oct 6, 2020 21:45:19 GMT -5
I’m really surprised by that. I know several guys in wheelchairs who own guns, I’d think that the type of disability would really make a big difference in that. It’s a pretty big sport for disabled veterans especially. They have competitions and it’s a game in the Paralympics too. Gun policy aside, it should only depend on if can you safely handle the gun with your disability. Para, sure. SMA, hell no. Yep. Especially for conceal carry. Sport has a lot more modifications available for severe disabilities.
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Post by sy on Oct 6, 2020 22:07:00 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest with you guys I don't really give a shit, I just wanted to stir the pot.
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Post by myrrh on Oct 6, 2020 23:18:07 GMT -5
I'm going to be honest with you guys I don't really give a shit, I just wanted to stir the pot. It is known, sy.
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Post by gimpygay on Oct 7, 2020 4:39:50 GMT -5
The kind of question that just makes people in the world beyond the United States shake their heads and think America really is a weird place. Still, nothing to do with us I suppose and so I will just leave it there.
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Post by gin on Oct 7, 2020 7:55:12 GMT -5
My personal opinion is that women and pwds are exactly the type people who would benefit from owning a gun for personal protection (if they’re comfortable and want to own a gun of course!). A woman or pwd who can be seen as vulnerable without a gun is suddenly on the exact same playing field as a 300lb able bodied male intruder with a gun. Considering disabled people are less able to get away or defend themselves physically (punching, kicking etc) I would say a disabled person is someone who needs a gun more than others for self defense, and that's coming from a disabled person. I disagree. Atleast when it comes to carrying in public. Simply because you cannot operate the gun and still move freely. They're gonna dodge before you can say "Second Amendment"! Even disarming an AB-person is quite easy when you know what you're doing (and they are not). Congratulations: You're now being robbed at gunpoint, and will be shot dead if the other person has a bad day – because usually even criminals dislike someone pointing a firearm at them. This applies to any weapon really – even pepper spray can backfire badly. Martial arts is the only way to go imo, because first and foremost you'll need good reflexes and maybe a moment of surprise IF you want to fight for whatever is at stake. If a pwd is able to safely handle it, there’s no reason that they shouldn’t be able to protect themselves like any other person. This right here really is the point. And I don't see any wheeler capable of doing that. So, I personally wouldn't carry a pistol, even if I were allowed to. Because chances are it will actually be a disadvantage, since you need to protect it (besides your own wellbeing/valuable goods/whatever). However I could imagine leaving one in my car/nightstand – but this is Europe, not the "land of the free", so I don't do that in order to avoid prison
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Post by Braced4Impact on Oct 7, 2020 9:22:01 GMT -5
My personal opinion is that women and pwds are exactly the type people who would benefit from owning a gun for personal protection (if they’re comfortable and want to own a gun of course!). A woman or pwd who can be seen as vulnerable without a gun is suddenly on the exact same playing field as a 300lb able bodied male intruder with a gun. Considering disabled people are less able to get away or defend themselves physically (punching, kicking etc) I would say a disabled person is someone who needs a gun more than others for self defense, and that's coming from a disabled person. I disagree. Atleast when it comes to carrying in public. Simply because you cannot operate the gun and still move freely. They're gonna dodge before you can say "Second Amendment"! Even disarming an AB-person is quite easy when you know what you're doing (and they are not). Congratulations: You're now being robbed at gunpoint, and will be shot dead if the other person has a bad day – because usually even criminals dislike someone pointing a firearm at them. This applies to any weapon really – even pepper spray can backfire badly. Martial arts is the only way to go imo, because first and foremost you'll need good reflexes and maybe a moment of surprise IF you want to fight for whatever is at stake. If a pwd is able to safely handle it, there’s no reason that they shouldn’t be able to protect themselves like any other person. This right here really is the point. And I don't see any wheeler capable of doing that. So, I personally wouldn't carry a pistol, even if I were allowed to. Because chances are it will actually be a disadvantage, since you need to protect it (besides your own wellbeing/valuable goods/whatever). However I could imagine leaving one in my car/nightstand – but this is Europe, not the "land of the free", so I don't do that in order to avoid prison I agree it probably does depend on the the level and severity of the disability, but considering many disabled people have been the targets of brutal attacks, I'd rather see a disabled person take that chance rather than become a victim.
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Post by gin on Oct 7, 2020 11:45:57 GMT -5
Haha, actually reminds me of this young fella Quite a good concept though, and probably the best one could come up with. I can see this working very well, but also going seriously wrong. You have to keep in mind, the moment you present a (lethal) weapon to an assaulter, you're not merely a potential victim anymore, but someone threatening to take his/her life. This may escalate things rather quickly. Self-defense at home is a different story altogether, because usually it would be about trying to secure one's position rather than running away. I'd probably stick to a shotgun (or semi-automatic) for this purpose though. Just hide somewhere and wait until there's no more danger, or well, shoot the bad guy(s)...
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Post by myrrh on Oct 7, 2020 13:06:10 GMT -5
Reverse 911 call the there's an active shooter in your neighborhood? Do you live in a grade school?
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Post by shadow on Oct 7, 2020 13:54:32 GMT -5
Reverse 911 call the there's an active shooter in your neighborhood? Do you live in a grade school? I must be too dense to understand what that is implying. Please do share.
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