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Post by AlrightyAphrodite on Feb 1, 2015 22:07:39 GMT -5
Can I just say, I'm touched by the saliency retained by the memory of the stolen blue flowered pencil.
I can only think of a couple instances of my dev dar going off, but I'm pretty sure I was right. It pretty much only happens when I'm in close proximity to a dis guy, you never really would see it in someone outside of that context. I think that's why you seem to find them a lot, Claire, because you were kinda in the thick of it. As a young dev I was definitely not brave enough to approach someone with a disability and try to start a conversation, so I probably never noticed anyone else doing it either. I definitely didn't have dev dar until I figured out it was a thing other people had, it didn't occur to me that it might be an experience other people had too. Claire, did you say your mom was a dev? That must have been so interesting. I wonder if that contributed to your dev dar?
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Post by Clair deLune on Feb 1, 2015 23:09:52 GMT -5
Claire, did you say your mom was a dev? That must have been so interesting. I wonder if that contributed to your dev dar? Not my mom, my dad, and I didn't know until I was grown up. Also, I didn't live with my dad when I was a kid. If it has an effect on my dev dar, I I would think it was because it's something that's in my blood, so I can sense it in other people too. Like people who are related to each other but have never met can spot each other or something (if that is a thing, I don't know. Is it?)
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Post by kivic on Feb 1, 2015 23:19:49 GMT -5
Pretty sure my mum's a Dev and possibly my youngest daughter.
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Post by LaMara on Feb 2, 2015 7:16:24 GMT -5
Clair deLune your post was very fascinating! I'd be curious to hear more stories like that... I don't think I've ever met other devs when I was younger, and the only one I met in person was a guy I was chatting with online about dev stuff. But for example there are artists on deviantart that I spotted immediately as "devvy", even if it wasn't that obvious.
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Post by LaMara on Feb 2, 2015 8:15:02 GMT -5
I'd only know if I met another dev IRL if we walked into the same lampost whilst we were mutually craning our necks at a sexy bicycle, pushchair, shopping trolley, park bench , wheeler in the street. I have very few social skills, let alone any kind of dev-dar. Ever been in a London park full of bikes? Because I might have bumped into you at one point... I bumped into a lot of people, I get distracted easily
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Post by Clair deLune on Feb 2, 2015 9:05:58 GMT -5
But for example there are artists on deviantart that I spotted immediately as "devvy", even if it wasn't that obvious. LaMara, I am fairly certain the fanart and fanfiction communities have a good amount of devs, after all, so much "dev material" can be found there. It seems like most fanartists and writers are women, too, and it makes me wonder where/what they all are? I've often theorized that there's a second "type" of dev out there, who maybe comes from a different sort of time or place or mindset, who 1) doesn't feel that strong "this is what I AM" sense of identity and 2) doesn't find their interests disturbing/upsetting/something they should hide or be secretive. Maybe they're the post-ADA generation, those millennials who were raised by parents who aren't products of the 1950s or earlier, or maybe they're just like the rest of us and are from all different situations and just simply like what they like and don't feel the need to analyze it or dissect it or feel ashamed of it. I bet you those women are a HUGE portion of the "silent dev majority"
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Post by Justagirl on Feb 2, 2015 11:08:19 GMT -5
While I'm not sure if I necessarily agree with the concept of another type of dev that you referenced Clair, I do consider myself to fall under your points. I believe I've referred to myself as not a hard core dev. I guess however we categorize it, the facts are still the same though. I have said before that I don't always post in some threads because I don't feel as strongly about certain dev things, but there are always many other topics I could post in to make up for it. So maybe my devness is a bigger part of me than I think, or maybe I just like to express my opinion once in awhile. It is extremely hard to put yourself and your thoughts out there, especially when you first join here. Afraid you may say "the wrong thing", or the right thing comes out wrong, or what you say simply won't make sense to everyone else. No one wants to look or feel stupid, even when incognito in cyber space. For me, one thing I'm very cognitive of is my writing style. See I am NOT a writer, and many of you are and therefore so much better at expressing your thoughts in a concise manner. Occasionally I feel the need to ramble to make myself clear. So sometimes I won't post if I think it's going to take a short essay to get my point across. Sometimes I want to participate and sometimes I just want to observe. The thing with participating for me is that I like to write posts that express my opinion on something. So whenever I post, I need to be prepared to explain more or defend how I feel. I don't mind this in the least, in fact that's what interests me, but sometimes I know I'm not going to have the time to respond and keep up like I'd want to. I don't like doing a half ass job, so I won't post. So there are a few reasons why I don't always post. I do agree with the idea though that you get more out of this place if you participate more, and you're more likely to make friends too.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 13:51:49 GMT -5
justagirl, I feel the same way about my writing on here, I sometimes don't think I have all the "big words" to express myself. English is not my mother language and even though I love to write, it involves lots of rewriting and editing the stuff I originally wrote out of my gut feeling and from the heart. Even though I am really good with the English language and have lived in the US for many years I sometimes read some of the posts and comments on here and I have to actually read some of them a few times to comprehend. There are so many smart people here... Some of the discussions make me a little insecure about what I would love to express but don't think I could the way some people do I sometimes would like to dive more into a discussion but I would have to prepare for it and I just don't have the time or my priorities lie elsewhere I think I am pretty good at welcoming new people....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 13:57:38 GMT -5
Reading clairdelune's post I thought how it would make an interesting discussion maybe about the dev-dar and meeting devs (not from here) in real life, I wonder if other devs have had that experience. I am kind of brain storming about that right now...don't want to hijack inky's original post
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Post by Justagirl on Feb 3, 2015 14:23:16 GMT -5
The saying " we are our worst critics" is definitely true Dani. I don't always follow my own advice, but personally I'd rather read something than nothing.
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Post by alexa2010 on Feb 4, 2015 8:45:25 GMT -5
I find it sometimes hard because English is not my first language. And I have the apprehension that I misread something. It's sometimes hard to understand sarcasm, exaggerations, cynicism or a some kind of humour if it's very subtile. And again. Often someone has represented my thought already in much better words than I ever would be able to.
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Post by Justagirl on Feb 4, 2015 9:09:27 GMT -5
I can honestly say I never really considered the fact that people might think I was an idiot for posting things when I first joined. I was only concerned with how much swearing I could 'get away with'. I had lurked for a bit (months and months) before I officially joined, so I think this gave me a feel for what kind of things I could talk about. People seemed generally open and friendly and I was depserate to stick my oar into several conversations, so I had to join. I find it hard NOT to post. Perhaps I'm addicted? I have cut my browsing down a bit though - I only log in for a swift browse about 30 times a day now. Inkdevil that is because you can channel your happy drunk persona when here. Maybe we all should do that, but literally if we need to take a shot or two of whiskey before posting. I bet the board would get interesting very fast. We may not understand each other then, what fun we could have! If you're addicted to posting on PD, PD Posters Anonymous may be the way to go. I've heard their membership has been lagging. However, we would miss you too much here, so I say just continue to feed that addiction of yours.
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Post by Justagirl on Feb 4, 2015 17:27:08 GMT -5
For me, one thing I'm very cognitive of is my writing style. See I am NOT a writer, and many of you are and therefore so much better at expressing your thoughts in a concise manner. Occasionally I feel the need to ramble to make myself clear. So sometimes I won't post if I think it's going to take a short essay to get my point across. I do that too. I have found that I get so frustrated when I can't articulate my devness how I want to. So, I wind up throwing extra words into the mix, repeating myself, to make it more "clear." Seldom works. I do have insecurities of being misunderstood. I hate to be misunderstood, so while it may seem like I am arguing a point, I guess I am. But more than anything, it's my own frustration that I feel like I am failing at getting my actual meaning across. Devness is not something easy for outsiders to understand. And when it is SO CLEAR to me, it's extra frustrating that its nearly impossible to convey. So the nice thing about PD, devs only, my dev friends- I don't have to. It's clear to them too Agreed! Explaining stuff in general can be hard enough, but explaining being a dev? Almost impossible..... unless of course you're in a conversation surrounded by other devs. Then it goes from impossible to just difficult. We each have different feelings and different ways of expressing ourselves as far as being a dev goes, but it's still a common thread that runs through all of us. And BTW tc123, I've always found your posts clear and very interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 22:56:35 GMT -5
I don't post a lot as I don't feel i have much to add to the discussion .. I lurk quite often
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2015 1:07:37 GMT -5
Being still kind of new I don't really interact much on the board because I don't think I have much to add. I don't have much experience just my own thoughts. I like seeing whose new and I'll read through some posts. Also I do work, have school and am a mom so it's hard keeping up with a lot of the posts. I also enjoy just talking to fellow members on PM but when the opportunity is there to add my two cents I do. but I do lurk quite a bit lol
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