Devotees/Women

[kneel]

Well that's easy, is it any different to going out with a non dev?

[infinatedreams]

Dec 28, 2019 4:12:00 GMT -5 kneel said:

Well that's easy, is it any different to going out with a non dev?

bit of an odd question, as in what way?

Devs aren't a different species, they are still women and will want all the same things as non devs, they will want to feel loved, appreciated, wanted etc etc etc no different to any other relationship.

Ok so yeah for the difference, there might be an extra level of intimacy and from a mans pwd perspective having someone who is not just into your mind but totally into your body that's a bloody good feeling, chuck into the mix you may be giving her what shes dreamed about for years, then that is a heady and powerful potion.


But, don't think your in for an easy ride, that she will cut you slack just because your a pwd, she will have HIGH expectations so be on your A game, and if you bring your A game then enjoy the rewards that will flow ...

[blindLeap]

@infinitedreams right on the money there :-)
The experiences I was allowed to have so far are this exact thing

[kneel]

Dec 28, 2019 6:48:06 GMT -5 infinatedreams said:

Dec 28, 2019 4:12:00 GMT -5 kneel said:

Well that's easy, is it any different to going out with a non dev?

bit of an odd question, as in what way?

Devs aren't a different species, they are still women and will want all the same things as non devs, they will want to feel loved, appreciated, wanted etc etc etc no different to any other relationship.

Ok so yeah for the difference, there might be an extra level of intimacy and from a mans pwd perspective having someone who is not just into your mind but totally into your body that's a bloody good feeling, chuck into the mix you may be giving her what shes dreamed about for years, then that is a heady and powerful potion.


But, don't think your in for an easy ride, that she will cut you slack just because your a pwd, she will have HIGH expectations so be on your A game, and if you bring your A game then enjoy the rewards that will flow ...

Infinite dreams I have shown my lack of experience - although I have gone out with women before I haven't considered that they might also be devs. I think I will read some more posts so I can develop an A game. BTW PWD = paralysed wheelchair disabled?

[kneel]

Dec 27, 2019 22:37:07 GMT -5 @mrniceguy said:

Dec 27, 2019 20:48:12 GMT -5 kneel said:

How do you know if you are going out with a Dev?

I totally thought this was a setup for a joke. Not gonna lie, I’m disappointed.

Ooh yeah I see it does read like a setup - I will finish the joke after I have met a Dev :>

[Emma]

kneel it seems you need to spend sometime reading past posts here to get a feel for devs.

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kneel
PWD is "person with a disability"
Don't expect every woman you meet to be a dev. Devs are rare and you should really go through some of the threads here and read up a bit and see how this board works and what it offers.

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Hey, new guy here who was definitely thirsty for the insight found in this enlightening thread. Thank you all for sharing and being open about this complex yet fascinating topic.

Aloha!

[Mets]

Dec 27, 2019 20:48:12 GMT -5 kneel said:

How do you know if you are going out with a Dev?

Turn on the Paralympics and then check your couch cushions

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I only had mail contact with Devotees twice before registering here.

The first woman found one of my insertions only by random, I had not searched for Devotees. Anyway, she enjoyed helping and said, she would also include it in her sexual fantasies. Writing with her was actually quite nice. She could also understand my sexual thoughts... Unfortunately she was already married and lived too far away. She advised me not to look for women who are not into guys in wheelchairs, but specifically for women like her.

By the nature of herself, she seemed normal. She did not seem more complicated than other women, as far as I could tell.


Number two I found in a German Devotee Forum.

She also immediately told me that she was married, but said she would like to write to me anyway. That also went well for a while. However, I soon realized that she was much more complicated than my previous contact and a relationship with her, even if she had been single, would not have worked:

She explained to me that she insisted on taking care of her partners only by herself. She would not allow anyone else to do it.

So I asked myself what I would do, if there were really fierce fighting in a relationship with her, after which it wouldn't be possible to make up immediately. In this case I would have the equally trouble with my girlfriend and my caregiver. A situation that would simply not be bearable...

What I mean is, I always try to take every woman as she is. With some women (no matter if Devs or not) it fits, with others it just doesn't.

To finish, I would like to add that I always find it a bad idea to reduce a person only to sexual preferences, because everyone is much more complex and in her or his own way worth more than that.

[medman]

Dec 18, 2019 1:50:12 GMT -5 Dani said:

This is not aimed at anyone in particular... the other thread has already been hijacked with our discussions so I'm starting a new thread.

I think when devs challenge the beliefs of what some guys think a devotee is, it can get awkward as the guys realize how off they were with their assumptions.

For a lot of us it is not a "black and white" simple explanation and I think it can throw the guys off when we start talking all touchy/feely and about actual deep emotions on what devness means to us.

For lots of devs it is not as simple as "I'm attracted to disabled guys and want to get laid by them or get them laid".
So I suggest to take in what the women here write when we discuss these things and think a bit deeper about it. Maybe even metaphorically take that knowledge out into the dating world when you are looking for that partner.

Some women here including me have opened up very personal parts of ourselves in what being a dev means and that's why I feel it's best to just read it, think about it if you want, and take this information to heart.

Yes, there are devs who consider their devness purely sexual or a fetish but just remember that not every dev thinks like that, for some it is much more complicated and has been a difficult journey that should not be underestimated or belittled.

So when it comes to PD it's not only learning about devotees but also women in general I guess and so in a way this here is a gold mine for you guys as you can uncensored "listen" to women talk openly about very personal things that move them or the way they think about certain things. Maybe some of the things that get discussed here actually pop up when you are out there with potential partners as you date or flirt or f...
And I know some of the things can be confusing to men. Women are already complicated and when you add the "devotee" to it, it can be a lot more to deal with for sure.

My post in the other thread was referring to what one PWD said about this place being a " at the end of day a site to tap into a fetish" and I responded how I don't consider devness a fetish. I was then asked what I consider devness if not a fetish and I explained along with some other ladies who voiced their opinion.
I came to the conclusion to give this advice and I would just say to the guys: LISTEN and LEARN and DON'T ASSUME.

It seemed a bit odd with the "general explanation" post of devoteeism when we had just discussed how much and what it means to be a devotee for individuals.

For some of you I wish you find the less complicated devs, the one's who maybe do consider it mostly a sexual attraction but just remember we are far and in between being devs as it is and so don't assume all devs think and feel the same, there is no generalization of what a dev is or how a dev thinks.

✌❤

[medman]

Hi all
Thanks for the information on this thread I did write a response the other day but I deleated the post because i thought that I posted in the Dev only area .
But after reading the first post that dani started it really helps me understand the people here and also helps me to realize that im not alone out here anymore because of the honesty that people are posting out here for everyone .
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So thanks Dani for starting this thread and I really even went off subject as you wrote in your last post .
I just want to thank you for explaining the devs to me

[medman]

And now after going back through most of the post in this thread .
I really don't see that a dev is a "fetish" any more than guys like a woman with blond hair I feel that it would or might be compaired to someone who wants to meet or a relationship with a blond with a real small waist but short legs .
Not being too general but EVERYONE wants to be with someone that they are
1 attracted to
2 they are compatible with
3 and they would be able to fall in love with .
I am a little older than most and have actually had several girlfriends since before and after my accident .
And actually the girl i was dating when I had my accident came up to see me and I told her at that time if you can't handle the idea that I am now paralyzed then dont come back . I was 20 and it wasn't a serious relationship but She couldn't handle it and i never saw her again . Then have had women that didnt expect that I could even "get it up " .
Then I have also wore a few out when I took a blue pill.
But what i hope I get out there to understand is I believe that being a dev is not necessarily a fetish in my way of thinking its what or who you are attracted to .Because reading Dani post still no one here sounds like they would walk up and drag someone that happens to be a wheelchair use off to just have a fast roll in the bed .
I think everyone here would at least be attracted mind body and sole no matter how they meet .

Ok my thumbs are tired .
So please let me know if I have it right or not .

[jrm]

Jan 7, 2020 21:40:03 GMT -5 medman said:

And now after going back through most of the post in this thread .
I really don't see that a dev is a "fetish" any more than guys like a woman with blond hair I feel that it would or might be compaired to someone who wants to meet or a relationship with a blond with a real small waist but short legs .
Not being too general but EVERYONE wants to be with someone that they are
1 attracted to
2 they are compatible with
3 and they would be able to fall in love with .
I am a little older than most and have actually had several girlfriends since before and after my accident .
And actually the girl i was dating when I had my accident came up to see me and I told her at that time if you can't handle the idea that I am now paralyzed then dont come back . I was 20 and it wasn't a serious relationship but She couldn't handle it and i never saw her again . Then have had women that didnt expect that I could even "get it up " .
Then I have also wore a few out when I took a blue pill.
But what i hope I get out there to understand is I believe that being a dev is not necessarily a fetish in my way of thinking its what or who you are attracted to .Because reading Dani post still no one here sounds like they would walk up and drag someone that happens to be a wheelchair use off to just have a fast roll in the bed .
I think everyone here would at least be attracted mind body and sole no matter how they meet .

Ok my thumbs are tired .
So please let me know if I have it right or not .

Honestly, I think you missed the main point.


While I personally don't consider my devness to be a fetish, there are plenty of devs who:

DO think their attraction is mostly or fully sexual and/or 
DO consider their devness to be a fetish  and/or 
ARE only looking for sex. 

Note that all 3 do not necessarily occur within the same person, although they can.

The point is that we are a varied group of individuals and you shouldn't assume that just because we are all devs we all think the same way.  Being a dev affects each one of us differently.