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Post by Triassic on Feb 2, 2007 10:23:19 GMT -5
The best long term energy solution I've heard is decades old; it consists of building huge(like the size of Florida)solar collectors in high geosynchronous orbit, and beam it straight down to collectors on earth. That's limitless, clean power. And it would give NASA an actual, real Mission instead of futzing around with the Shuttle and the <snicker> International Space Station. Ah, but don't get in the way of that microwave beam.
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Post by Pony on Feb 2, 2007 15:22:59 GMT -5
Hey Tri-dawg, maybe we wouldn't need microwave ovens anymore...just stick your sandwich outside in the Sun for 30 seconds!! ; ) I'm TOTALLY with ya on the NASA needing a "real" mission. Everytime they shoot a rocket up, i say, "What the fuck are they doing?" I just wanna know what's so damn important to spend the billions we do....oh yeah, let's see how Watermelon seeds grow in zero-gravity!!! hehe
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Post by laurasweetou on Feb 2, 2007 15:24:47 GMT -5
I couldn't read through all of this (sorry), AB mentioned a sick stomach... I lost a very close friend in the beginning of the war. We (her sisters and I grew up toghther), and she was walking down the street IN HER SECRATARY'S UNIFORM and was blown up. There was nothing to send home of Michelle. She was only 21 year's old. Another friend was sent to Pakistan when all the torture was happening to the "other guys". He was sent home with PTSD. And, if I could add one more thing... the state I live in is very good in keeping up with ALL casualties, not just the dead. And now there is serious talk of a draft?
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Post by Ouch on Feb 2, 2007 18:59:50 GMT -5
In the United States, I doubt very very much that a conscripture system will go into effect, and if it were to happen, there would most likely be nation crippling riots, and civil disobedience of that nature...much worse than Vietnam.
I agree, I wish NASA, etc. would actually do something useful...instead of sending friggin' probes to Pluto, and other useless junk...how about colonising/utilising the moon and Mars. The ISS does seem like a pointless endeavour...what the hell are they doing up there anyway.
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Post by Triassic on Feb 2, 2007 22:18:30 GMT -5
Hmm...well, no. The UNmanned stuff NASA does makes sense. It's good science, and is relatively cheap. I'm all for probes sent hither and thither.
But the Space Shuttle is pointless, so far as I can see. It's purest hype. And lately it's main mission seems to have been making it back home intact. Seriously. Most of the time in space has been spent inspecting the orbiter for damage acquired at launch. Crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2007 22:38:59 GMT -5
Well the ISS is going to be used as a stepping stone to the moon and then onto mars....
The ISS is still being built...but once its done there will be a rotating crew. They need to study the affects of zero g, long term. Plus all kinds of experiments in zero g. And well I would be the first to sign up. Up there dead legs don't mean shit.
And really it would be easier to construct modules for the moon up there. Then down here.
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Post by Triassic on Feb 3, 2007 1:31:43 GMT -5
When there's an actual REASON to be on the moon, we'll be there. Not before. Maybe not ever. I doubt humans will ever visit Mars.
These space travel fantasies(that's what they are) are the last holdouts of the mid 20th century view of Space as an endless, boundless Sky, where Man would meet his destiny in the Stars, blah blah...seeding the cosmos with civilization, etc.
But in reality space is unimaginably, ridiculously hostile; scoured by hard radiation, cold beyond conception...and oh yes; prolonged weightlessness does awful things to the body.
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Post by Ouch on Feb 3, 2007 10:02:10 GMT -5
The medical issues about being in space can be averted and countered...if we put some more money into that...as far as the ISS goes, being called 'International' is far from it...I really think space exploration should be a truly international effort.
I still stand by my statement that repeatedly sending probes where 'no man has gone before is useless unless we're going to do something with that information'. Probes to Pluto are sincerely a waste in my opinion right now...sending a probe to the moon would be great...we could use the probe to scout out an area for a planned manned mission. Building a permanent space station upon the moon would be a good idea, especially if it was an international effort (specific nations taking portions of extraterrestrial objects isn't a good idea).
Space Travel Fantasy or not...it is/will become a Space Travel Necessity, as Earth isn't going to be able to support us forever.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2007 20:25:04 GMT -5
The main reason we will get out into space are the same as they have always been. Money and not letting someone else gain an advantage. The money that will be made in space will make the spice runs of the old world look like the Salvation army collection.
Power and paranoia....makes the world go round.
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Post by Triassic on Feb 4, 2007 9:35:59 GMT -5
Well...in any case we surehave wandered far from subjects like sexuality, disability and devness.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2007 15:30:07 GMT -5
Meh.....I like arguing about sh*t that has nothing to do with me.....lol Besides One dev per major City is to much of a tease to constantly be reminded of it heh . If we happen to have a lurker in the Calgary area...well thats different.
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Post by Pony on Feb 6, 2007 16:19:53 GMT -5
Ok, i'm going to attempt to sew NASA-topic to sex-topic coz the Tri-man has aptly informed us of straying away from SEX, where our minds should be. hehe
I'm sure you kids have heard of the female astronaut that drove from Texas to Florida with a diaper on so she didn't have to pull over. Her mission was to kidnap, possibly kill the wife of another astronut who was married. Evidently the love-triangle got to her finally. I just wish this shit would have happened on the Space Station. I might change my mind about the space $$$ being such a waste.
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Post by Triassic on Feb 6, 2007 18:38:38 GMT -5
She's kinda hot too. I like that look; curly red hair, freckles...
But what's amazing to me is how someone that crazy got that far in NASA. Huh?
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Post by Ouch on Feb 7, 2007 9:33:27 GMT -5
Yeah, rumble in the space station...in HIGH-DEF PPV! Not only would that have been cool, but that would've generated some revenue that's not coming from our pockets.
As for her making it through NASA...just look at the rest of the government, lol...it's easy to see...actually I must applaud the folks at NASA, they've been tough to crack compared to the rest of the government.
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Post by Triassic on Feb 7, 2007 10:57:51 GMT -5
No, seriously...shuttle astronauts are like SEAL Team 6; literally the best of the best of the best. Nobody gets through the program unless they're super-competant and outstanding to begin with. But they also do lots of psych screening, because it's exactly this sort of 7th grade love rivalry thing they want to avoid...not only just somebody going bugshit from claustrophobia or panicking in space.
No...something else is going on here too. This girl has a brain tumor, or she's on some meds, something.
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