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Post by Pony on Jan 29, 2007 19:07:23 GMT -5
In the news today, a Gov state-of-the-art Rehab Center for the Intrepid opened in Houston, TX. It will serve the 30,000-plus soldiers coming back from Iraq with severe disabilities. i saw burn victims disfigured beyond repair, amputees and i'm sure there will be a great many quads/paras, along with blind and brain injuries.
I don't hear much about these dudes/chicks in the news, or from Gov., but i saw Bob Woodruff, the journalist who got injured severely by an IED, talk about "the injured" returning, and it made me think about those coming home to face a whole new World.
Curious as to what you think!! I wonder, do the American people really know what's in store for these young people? We seem to only mention the dead on a daily basis...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2007 19:21:34 GMT -5
Yep Ive hardly heard a thing about the Vets. I can't even imagine what they have to deal with. I remember only being able to get a few hours sleep a night for the first few months. And the shit they have seen and done? Well I'm sure it makes things that much steeper.
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Post by Ouch on Jan 30, 2007 9:30:19 GMT -5
It has always happened with every war, pretty much. A lot of people will think of the troops that are actively fighting, and those who have died serving, and that's all they know of as for losses...but the oft-forgotten, are those who have lived to tell the tale but have suffered wounds in service, the survivors so to speak.
Actually though, I saw a promo, for some show (unfortunately I forget) that was going to actually cap the lives of soldiers that are returning injured from Iraq (U.S. Soldiers) and follow their lives in recovery, of which some will most likely be paras (perhaps a few quads), and amputees obviously as well, and perhaps others. I think it was going to be an ongoing series on some news network, perhaps it was CNN...not sure though.
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Post by Pony on Jan 30, 2007 16:10:21 GMT -5
That special you're talking about MIGHT be the program the journalist Bob Woodruff is going to host. Keep your eye out for it!!
As these severe injuries go, i also wonder what the hell happens to the 1,000s out Iraqis that end up quads, amps, brain damaged, etc. Every time i hear of bomb blasts it's like 40 killed, 100 injured. You know those injuries aren't pretty, and there's no sweet rehab ready to help the injured either.
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Post by BA on Jan 30, 2007 22:30:22 GMT -5
It is hard for me to even speak of this topic without getting sick to my stomach. My goal is to transfer my position as a psych nurse and try to help some of these men and women (some of them babies) as much as humanly possible.
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Post by Ouch on Jan 31, 2007 10:10:54 GMT -5
I feel the worst about the people getting caught in the crossfire. I mean it's bad for the soldiers (on both sides), but the innocents, like the children and the folks just minding their own business and trying to live life that are getting their lives torn apart because people want to blow up marketplaces and places of religion.
Hopefully by this time 2009, we can start to put an end to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2007 16:03:32 GMT -5
Maybe Nostradamus was right mwuahahah. And so was George Carlin we are swirling around the bowl. Maybe thats what we need. A series of events so traumatizing...so profound that the ones left alive are grateful and differences of religion and race become silly....Meh! its nice to dream eh?
Mr. Bush is the man to lead the way his two term presidency is the same as the Roman lead wine jars and water pipes...Hindsight is a mother f*cker!....anyone else hearing the twist music from Signs?
When ever I see Bush talking about the Middle east I picture that oil tycoon from Bugs Bunny lighting a match in a room full TNT. Do we really want someone that stupid anywhere near the biggest powder keg in history?
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Post by Triassic on Jan 31, 2007 16:07:17 GMT -5
The exact number and nature and severity of all wounds from the Iraq war are surely known; I mean for our soldiers. Yet you hear little about it, and it's always kept pretty vague.
I wonder if a statement like; 'There are 1900 amputees of various types, 250 TBI's, 280 SCI's, 150 severely burned, etc, etc...' would that enrage the public more than 3000 plus corpses?
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Post by jenny on Jan 31, 2007 16:35:42 GMT -5
I've actually heard figures like that, even breaking down the number of triple amputees. No quad amps. There have been some stories on CNN that follow wounded soldiers readjusting to civilian life and adjusting to life with a dis.
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Post by Pony on Jan 31, 2007 17:15:39 GMT -5
I think this administration has done a very good job....uh, at censoring what, and how we see/hear it, even to the point of skewing, or flat lying about info. I have seen a few stories on the wounded, but maybe the American public just isn't that tuned in to the lives of the injured. Most figure 'they're strong soldiers, there's plenty of financial help to restore their lives to normal.'
I think the lack of "enraged public" is because it's been sanitized so much and it's a volunteer military. But as a fellow human, i also think about the Iraqi children (1/2 the country is under 18) that are suffering the wounds...amps, SCIs, TBIs, psych-damage, etc. AB can tell us more about the psych-injury.
I can't help but feel disappointed in the American public for not caring enough about us AND them. We swallow whatever pain we feel because we are sheep being led over the cliff, and as long as we're doing ok in our backyard, then fuck it.
We, as disabled peeps, know how fucked up many lives will be from this ridiculas occupation, war, spreading of democracy, or whatever you wanna call it. Yes, 'young people die AND live with terrible injuries coz of old politician's wars.' We need a "movement!!"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2007 17:41:51 GMT -5
"The general who wins the battle makes many calculations in his temple before the battle is fought. The general who loses makes but few calculations beforehand. "
"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles is not the acme of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the acme of skill. "
"All warfare is based on deception. "
I really do wish Bush would read his Sun Tzu Its obvious he doesnt even know who he is.
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Post by jenny on Jan 31, 2007 18:55:53 GMT -5
This war is about the control of oil, pure and simple. Every time you go fill up at the pump, you're condoning the war. But hey, I do it, too. Oddly, GM and other American car companies killed off public transportation in the late 1940s and 1950s. Now they're dying too and we're left with no realiable cheap means of transportation accessible to all.
Who will you buy your energy from? The Saudis? The Russians? Maybe the Chinese?
There aren't any easy answers to this. And btw, imho, every administration is built on lies and deceit. It comes with the job.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2007 19:40:48 GMT -5
Spend a few billion on setting up a windmill on top of every telephone pole....There is more then enough energy to be had...the problem is shifting the power from those who have it and are trying very hard to keep it. Common sense is the bane of every politician
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Post by BA on Jan 31, 2007 20:06:58 GMT -5
well said Mellow, well said.
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Post by jenny on Feb 1, 2007 6:00:05 GMT -5
Mellow, I agree there are a lot of solutions to this problem. Unfortunately, none of them can instantly replace oil. There are wind farms and solar farms in the US, mostly in California, but now wildlife groups are claiming too many birds are being killed by the windmills. I think at one point they actually did stop the windmills. And there are hundreds of little hydroelectric plants along rivers in the US that have been shut down because the dams associated with them interfere with fish migratory patterns. There's always a price to pay.
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