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Post by Maurine on Nov 18, 2014 9:20:05 GMT -5
That's a good question. I wouldn't make generalisations, though. After all, the term incomplete includes a great range of what might or might not function. Also, a guy's attitude towards his "trouser snake" does not necessarily have to be linked to him being complete or incomplete, although you're probably right that there are tendencies like the one you mentioned.
I prefer incomplete injuries. It's not because of the sexual aspect, although I do like that part. It's rather that I think there's so much to explore in an incomplete injury. I never know if and what my guy feels when I touch him, it also varies from day to day. I don't know how much function you can regain with a complete injury. Someone wrote somewhere on the board that he wouldn't like to be with an incomplete para since he'd never give up on walking again. While I'm attracted to disability, I'm also thrilled to watch some function slowly coming back. It's also that I like partial damage. There's that simplicity and finality with a complete injury. I'm sure that lots of dev like that and I understand it, but I still prefer the complexity and mystery of an incomplete injury.
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Post by alexa2010 on Nov 18, 2014 10:01:27 GMT -5
Yes I have! I'm completely into "complete"! ;-) At least in my fantasies. So hot!! If I would meet the right guy I’d take him complete or incomplete. But if I could choose I'd always pick complete.
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Post by queenjane on Nov 18, 2014 10:07:54 GMT -5
If I would meet the right guy I’d take him complete or incomplete. But if I could choose I'd always pick complete. Same, absolutely. I'm so into it.
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Post by Emma on Nov 18, 2014 22:33:07 GMT -5
I prefer incomplete injuries. It's not because of the sexual aspect, although I do like that part. It's rather that I think there's so much to explore in an incomplete injury. I never know if and what my guy feels when I touch him, it also varies from day to day. I don't know how much function you can regain with a complete injury. Someone wrote somewhere on the board that he wouldn't like to be with an incomplete para since he'd never give up on walking again. While I'm attracted to disability, I'm also thrilled to watch some function slowly coming back. It's also that I like partial damage. There's that simplicity and finality with a complete injury. I'm sure that lots of dev like that and I understand it, but I still prefer the complexity and mystery of an incomplete injury. So interesting Maurine. As an amp dev I think I'm into the most complete type of injury.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 0:35:45 GMT -5
I've been thinking about this and it is a hard question for me to answer, especially since I have never been with a wheeler IRL, so I can only speculate. However, I think my vote is for incomplete. It has nothing to do with the snake in the grass though. For me, watching them work at movement.....sometimes succeeding, sometimes not is a big turn on. Never give up right? And the fact that there is feeling, but it can change... I like the variety. Having something "new" to explore each time sounds exciting to me!
On a side note I was wondering if we should throw this question out there for the guys.... and see if they agree with incomplete means the snake is more important than with a complete. I have a feeling both groups can see the value in finding other 'erotic zones'. When lucretia said it depends on the individual and their maturity level, etc. I completely agree with her. And asking them to talk about their snakes may not be such a wise idea...do I really want to open up that can of worms? lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 1:00:11 GMT -5
On a side note I was wondering if we should throw this question out there for the guys.... and see if they agree with incomplete means the snake is more important than with a complete. I have a feeling both groups can see the value in finding other 'erotic zones'. And asking them to talk about their snakes may not be such a wise idea...do I really want to open up that can of worms? lol. NOOOOOOO!!!!! St. Patrick's Day is MONTHS away!!! Very true! Thanksgiving is much closer. Anyone have any turkeys they want to talk about?!?
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Post by faith on Nov 19, 2014 1:37:37 GMT -5
I am not a trouser snake girl, just not into the penis thing so much. I mean, there are times I would love that sensation deep inside but overall I'd prefer a complete over non-complete because it's just a non issue.
With that said my sweetie is a complete. I'd give anything for him to gain some feeling and sensation back in that area. I know it is his number 1 area he'd fix, we'll maybe after bowel/bladder. But he's really good at the romantic, slow part of sex. I've never had that before and I just take it all in and enjoy every minute we are together. There is just so much more to focus on without the penis in the way!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2014 11:35:10 GMT -5
Your answers and thoughts are very interesting and if I am more of a reserved dev and don’t post a lot, I’d like to give my opinion on this. I have been into complete SCIs for a long time but recently I discovered I tend to have a better liking for incomplete injuries. To me it is not related to sex (erection wise) but more like a discovery process and sensitivity feelings. As a lot of devs claim, it has to do with touching and exploring disabled bodies, finding erogenous zones and a way to give pleasure. With a complete SCI the sensations are limited but I kind of liked the idea of being the dominant and being in charge. It is all a fantasy though because I never had a relationship with a para but I kind of like it that way. Dreaming, imagining and writing play an important part in my appeal. Usually fantasies are not meant to be fulfilled and I might be disappointed. As I am also into braces and crutches (Abasophylia is the technical term) I revel in the fact an incomplete wheeler can also stand and do a few steps. I find it veeeery devy!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 9:52:17 GMT -5
@devvydowner I know it's not cut and dried with the complete/incomplete thing in terms of sensation, I was just generalising for the sake of making my life easier in the explanation stakes. It's just honestly never occurred to me until recently that I actually had a preference for one or the other. Perhaps my preference is actually for men who are not 'trouser snake' obsessed. I'm certainly not that into men's dangly bits. It wouldn't bother me if I was never in close combat with a spitting trouser snake ever again. Perhaps I'm a closet lesbian?! So many dark depths of my psyche to explore... I was trying to be polite about the penis references. It doesn't come naturally to me to be polite, so I was clutching at straws. There are so many funny names for the male genitalia, but I do hate the word penis, so wanted to use another name for it. Other suggestions are welcome! I am not 'penis obsessed' either and I find your comments funny. As you obviously already guessed I am French and there are 23 words in the slang dictionary to name the 'trouser snake'. Most of them are untranslatable. I don't even know what some of them mean! But here are 3 less vulgar suggestions : the tail, the noddle and the leak... Ha ha Well enough on the subject. I've been carried away!
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Post by Valkyrja on Nov 20, 2014 10:03:13 GMT -5
Like Alexa said, in my fantasies it is way hotter the complete injury.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 10:19:40 GMT -5
@devvydowner I know it's not cut and dried with the complete/incomplete thing in terms of sensation, I was just generalising for the sake of making my life easier in the explanation stakes. It's just honestly never occurred to me until recently that I actually had a preference for one or the other. Perhaps my preference is actually for men who are not 'trouser snake' obsessed. I'm certainly not that into men's dangly bits. It wouldn't bother me if I was never in close combat with a spitting trouser snake ever again. Perhaps I'm a closet lesbian?! So many dark depths of my psyche to explore... I was trying to be polite about the penis references. It doesn't come naturally to me to be polite, so I was clutching at straws. There are so many funny names for the male genitalia, but I do hate the word penis, so wanted to use another name for it. Other suggestions are welcome! I am not 'penis obsessed' either but as you obviously already guessed I am French and there 23 words in the slang dictionary to name the 'trouser snake' (BTW I assume you are British inkdevil?) Yeah, 23 and that's without counting the proper ones! I don't even know what some of them mean so they are untranslatable in English. Anyhow here are 4 less vulgar ones as suggestions: Tail, baton, noodle and leak.... Very poetic isn't it? Well enough with the anatomical wanderings and let's get back to our main focus: Complete or incomplete?
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Post by jrm on Nov 20, 2014 15:09:49 GMT -5
I prefer incomplete for the same reasons mentioned above ... the exploration of sensation and ability. But, it doesn't matter to me whether or not the snake works. I'd be happy with a complete or incomplete, if he was the right man for me.
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Post by Clair deLune on Nov 20, 2014 15:12:32 GMT -5
I don't know. TBH, either is incredibly hot to me. Every person is unique, every injury is unique, it's hard to rank one over the other.
Reading this whole thread (plus some other things that have been on my mind recently) just makes me marvel at how different the world (and my wold!) is compared to how it was before the internet. I remember having no idea about complete vs. incomplete, and having no idea there was any such thing as incomplete , while I believe that statistically an incomplete injury is much more common than a complete one. I remember thinking that a paraplegic is paralyzed from the waist down, with no clue about different levels etc. and I remember knowing very very little about paralysis in general, except that I was weirdly interested in it as soon as I knew what it was.
I also remember having no idea there was a such thing as a devotee, not quite making the connection between 'interest' and 'attraction,' and feeling like absolutely the weirdest person on the planet, so, thank you internet and thank you paradevo! XD
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Post by BA on Nov 20, 2014 23:18:43 GMT -5
Penis/erection obsession in a guy is a huge turn off for me. I have experienced it with two SCI guys and it took the sensuality right out of the relationships. I see it as juvenile and insecure. Complete or incomplete, flaccid or spastic, doesn't matter. If he can feel it, I am going to explore it. If he can't feel it, I am also going to explore it.
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Post by ichbin on Apr 27, 2022 17:06:54 GMT -5
Complete or incomplete, flaccid or spastic, doesn't matter. If he can feel it, I am going to explore it. If he can't feel it, I am also going to explore it. 👍 Same for me. 😉
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