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Post by feelsunshine on Jan 18, 2020 5:15:58 GMT -5
Hi all, I recently stumbled across a topic I’d like to hear your view upon.
For those who are interested in SCI.
Can you point out the exact level of injury that you’re interested in most or are you not as specific and say doesn’t matter as long as he’s a Para for example?
If I ask myself to intuitively point out a level on the spine I will point to level T12 or maybe a bit below.
I can’t really tell why I can specify that region so precise. It’s just there.
Haha, and just to make sure, we‘re talking about fantasies here. If a matching Para (or even quad) for me comes along with a higher or lower injury, I’d still be interested in him 👍
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Post by newmn on Jan 18, 2020 5:22:35 GMT -5
No specific level. But add to that, complete over incomplete. If a quad, enough arm function to manage a manual chair. But as you say, talking fantasy here.
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Post by feelsunshine on Jan 18, 2020 5:32:38 GMT -5
See, newmn I didn’t even think about mentioning complete or incomplete because that doesn’t seem to make a difference for me at all. |
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Post by linda on Jan 18, 2020 7:56:26 GMT -5
I‘ve never thought about the specific height of lesion, but for me, a para would be my preference. I learned though that there are actually significant differences coming with the height regarding functionality of the penis, for example. But I am fine with anything in this regard. I don’t even need it at all. Also that one reason why I think I am a perfect para dev...😉
Complete and incomplete have both their charming sides, I think. I don’t have any experience with incomplete though to tell the truth, but I find the idea that he can feel but not move very exciting.
One more thing to add would be disability from birth or later. I am more interested in acquired injuries than in congenital ones.
All of that without me being able to point out why.
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Post by feelsunshine on Jan 18, 2020 8:29:15 GMT -5
acquired injuries for me, too.
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Post by rebeca on Jan 18, 2020 8:34:58 GMT -5
I‘ve never thought about the specific height of lesion, but for me, a para would be my preference. I learned though that there are actually significant differences coming with the height regarding functionality of the penis, for example. But I am fine with anything in this regard. I don’t even need it at all. Also that one reason why I think I am a perfect para dev...🤗 Complete and incomplete have both their charming sides, I think. I don’t have any experience with incomplete though to tell the truth, but I find the idea that he can feel but not move very exciting. One more thing to add would be disability from birth or later. I am more interested in acquired injuries than in congenital ones. All of that without me being able to point out why. I'm in linda's camp, except I like the things penises can do but we're talking fantasies here. Prefer acquired injuries, and level of injury doesn't matter. I also find the idea of feeling without moving very exciting. |
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Post by Amee on Jan 18, 2020 12:40:30 GMT -5
Thanks for that interesting topic feelsunshine ! Before having had any actual contact (online or irl) with PWDs, I channeled a lot of my dev desires and especially highs into writing stories. For those stories, I would spend a lot of time researching levels of injuries and what they entailed. I would actually spend quite some time considering what injury to give the love interest. I'm pretty sure the level I almost always picked was T12... although honestly, I think the main (or even only) reason for that was that the number looks and sounds the nicest to me, lol. 12 is just a nicer number than 11 or 10 or 9. It sounds ridiculous, but I really think that ended up being the reason. I also felt a need to present the love interest in those stories as very independent and "mainstream" desirable, so I preferred lower injuries anyway. In pure fantasy, I can find a wide range of things interesting or hot. I really like the idea of feeling without moving as well - mainly because touching someone when they don't feel it is completely unexciting to me. I want my partner to feel when I touch him. In real life, if there was a choice (which is of course also completely hypothetical) I would always prefer as low and uncomplicated as possible. As much independence as possible and the fewer side-effects the better. For one, because I think it would really make life easier for both in the long run and to some degree also, because I'm not yet completely free of dev guilt (and with regard to very severe injuries, I don't know if I ever will be). Something I've noticed when talking to guys here on PD, though, is that I really don't care about injury level at all - to the point where it doesn't even cross my mind to ask that of someone I'm chatting with. I also forget it again very quickly, if it does come up and someone tells me  |
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Post by robbb on Jan 18, 2020 13:10:19 GMT -5
If we are in fantasy mode...
Acquired.
No higher than T5 although anything lower is fine.
Complete.
Also prefer flacid legs rather than spastic if I can choose.
R.
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Post by SouthernCalGal on Jan 18, 2020 15:28:21 GMT -5
I don’t have any experience to really know. I have discovered that it is acquired that is in the background of my dev thoughts.
What is strange is that this is a really uncomfortable thread for me. I guess I have not really dissected the specifics of injury and to do so makes me uneasy. And, I really don’t see myself doing it either. The uncomfortable feeling is strange. Something to think about. 🤔
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Post by Amee on Jan 18, 2020 17:27:01 GMT -5
SouthernCalGal I understand why it makes you uncomfortable and I have a bit of a similar feeling, which was much stronger before I've made some irl experiences. For me at least, it's for the exact reason tc123 stated. It feels like we're making light of it: We're talking about traumatic life-changing injuries as if we were discussing our favorite type of flowers or brand of shoes. For me personally, having made some irl experiences has really taken a bit of the discomfort away from all that, though. Back when I was still completely secretive about my devness and didn't allow myself to act on it in any way, researching things like injury levels was one of the few things I could do to "learn" about PWDs. Meeting people in real life was not an option so I tried to learn about disability through generic things online. That was the only way I could engage that interest in any way. Of course, once you actually meet a real person, literally almost everything is more interesting than their exact level and type of injury. Having made the experience that I really don't care about injury level in real life (except about the implications it has on independence) makes it easier to talk about it in this light hypothetical way as well, I think. You don't have to feel guilty or uncomfortable about something you know is just a fun reflecting and sharing thoughts on fantasies. They mean very little to nothing in real life. It's like those silly would-you-rathers. People do that about all kinds of things. All that being said, one thing that I still sometimes cringe a little bit about with these topics is the thought that people from outside, who don't know much about devs let alone us personally, can read these things. I don't even want to imagine what they would think when reading such topics. But, I guess if they're really interested in learning about us, they can read more extensively on the board and that will put threads like this one into perspective. If they're not really open and interested, then there's plenty of horrible stuff about us all over the Internet anyway, so this won't really make a big difference.
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Post by feelsunshine on Jan 18, 2020 18:11:40 GMT -5
I don’t have any experience to really know. I have discovered that it is acquired that is in the background of my dev thoughts. What is strange is that this is a really uncomfortable thread for me. I guess I have not really dissected the specifics of injury and to do so makes me uneasy. And, I really don’t see myself doing it either. The uncomfortable feeling is strange. Something to think about. 🤔 Oh I know what you mean when you're saying that this thread gives you an uncomfortable feeling! It wasn't easy for me to somehow form the words for my original post. But what if there was this little corner of the world wide web which was established to talk exactly about our very special attraction? And there's certainly a reason why it took me one year hanging around on PD to even think about opening a thread about that. With all due respect, we're here on PD: devs on the one hand who get excited about injuries and disabilities, whereas on the other hand are those guys who were forced to live with that disability, whereas this (at least for the acquired disabilities) is or was the the worst-case scenario that they could have thought of in their earlier AB life. And I certainly don't hope to hurt anyones feelings (if the guys read this). I am aware we're talking serious stuff here - whereas still fantasies. And as mentioned before - real life is different, I'm totally aware of that, too. |
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Post by blueskye101 on Jan 20, 2020 4:32:54 GMT -5
Fantasy:
Acquired
C5/6 and below
Complete
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Post by lizzy on Jan 20, 2020 19:29:02 GMT -5
Reality:
Acquired
C5/6 and below
Incomplete/complete - both interesting
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Post by Emma on Jan 22, 2020 3:57:09 GMT -5
Of course, once you actually meet a real person, literally almost everything is more interesting than their exact level and type of injury. I can guarantee that for most people these things like complete vs incomplete and level of injury (unless very high) make very little significance IRL. I’ve dated a few SCI guys and other pwds and in the end all of these little “preferences” mean nothing when you’re talking about a real person and getting to know a real person. This conversation is interesting to me even though I have very little interest in SCI. This very same conversation comes up all the time in relation to amputees. Most amp devs have specific interests and some can have really specific interests when it comes to the type of amputees they like. I have heard so many picky things about amputees from devs over the years and admit that I have said some things about my preferences that in the end didn't matter. Like Amee said, once you meet the guy IRL it all goes out the window. Its so much more about the guy and all the other things about him. It doesn't really matter anymore that his stumps aren't exactly the length you prefer or perfectly smooth; those exact details about his disability aren't all that important. |
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Post by pam on Jan 22, 2020 8:13:20 GMT -5
In fantasy land, it would be a complete para, any level, as long as he was good looking to me.
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