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Post by wheelieInCali on Dec 15, 2010 22:17:34 GMT -5
OMG not this again. Just because you happen to be a wheeler doesn't automatically mean that a dev from this site is going to deliver a relationship. They are still girls, and girls will always have that elusive quality. Get over it already that you didn't hook up with a dev simply because you registered on this site. If I remember correctly, wasn't there an apology placed not so long ago about a certain wheeler standing up not one but two girls because things got too real? What straw man are you throwing up at me? You're defending the ladies honor when I haven't slighted it in the least bit. Who the f*ck said I'm entitled to a devo? That's what you're throwing at me right? paradevo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2441 You covered your tracks well but the stink from the shit on your shoes remains. Sorry to hurt your feelings but your mouth wrote a check that you weren't brave enough to cash then you turn around a month later say that the devs are living in a fantasy world?
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Post by wonk on Dec 15, 2010 22:25:48 GMT -5
This in the previously mentioned thread You'll be back... THEY ALL COME BACK ... hahahaaaaaaaaaaa Hey Wheeli are you really Nostradamus?
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Post by Ray T on Dec 16, 2010 1:39:25 GMT -5
LOL you guys need to cut down on the testosterone ... geesh the man is new and asking a question not trying to offend anyone...
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Post by wonk on Dec 16, 2010 1:49:09 GMT -5
I totally understand your point Ray, and I fully believe everyone is entitled to their opnion. You may have noticed that it was Sittingbull who raised the question and no one was at all upset with him for doing so.
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Post by astopaz on Dec 16, 2010 2:54:40 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting argument going on between the men. Well... I for one would be interested in knowing what these events are. I go to sizeable college and have seen just two wheelers on campus...
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Post by wheelieInCali on Dec 16, 2010 3:19:05 GMT -5
Hmm, interesting argument going on between the men. Well... I for one would be interested in knowing what these events are. I go to sizeable college and have seen just two wheelers on campus... I'm way ahead of you astopaz (welcome by the way). If you want to meet wheelers, why not fill out this survey paradevo.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2496it's only the first step but who knows what I can get going here. If you have already, thank you.
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Post by jordsbaby on Dec 16, 2010 5:50:38 GMT -5
What are you talking about? I'm not bashing anyone nor am I getting snarky. The ladies have themselves stated that the men have fallen short of the fantasy. What am I doing other than restating this? Let me tell you something. The two of you like to jump on my sh*t. That's cool. I'll be giving it back. They wouldn't jump on your shit if you just stopped starting it. Every time I read your posts I cringe. If there's anyone that makes me feel bad about being a dev and trying to accept me for who I am, it's guys like you.
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Post by BA on Dec 16, 2010 6:46:13 GMT -5
Couldn't have said that any better Sweetia. The chair will make me "look". The "man" will make me stay.
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Post by sittingbull on Dec 16, 2010 7:13:16 GMT -5
I think the question is more if they WANT to find a disabled partner or if they are happy living their fantasies without trying to get in serious contact with a potentional disabled partner. That is an interesting theory, I'm curious to know what prompted you to think that? What percentage of women would you estimate that would fall into that category? Coffee you seem to agree with sittingbull, so feel free to chime in on this one too. Well I didnt want to say that devs prefere to life in a fantasy, its more that I think they have not many other choices. Less than 0,1% of the population in an average western country sits in a chair. Besides that its obvious that using a wheelchair is not enough for a dev to start a relationship with someone. Age, social background, look, humor, intellegence... whatever, like in every partnership the chemistry between both must be working, and if its let say 1 in a 1000 (which is not very high) then you have one possible match in a million! And you have to find him. Also keep in mind some devs still have problems with their feelings, some cant imagine to tell friends/family about their devness. Some have an exiting sexuality that has nothing to do with disabilities, and their devness is just another part of their sexuality. And there are others in good working relationships with AB guys, sometimes even with children, so you can imagine how hard it would be to sacrifice all that for the chance to find mr. 1/1000000 superwheeler. I completely understand them when they decide to life their devness in a fantasy, and I dont blame anyone for that, I would possible do the same if I had to walk in their moccasins
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Post by trinity on Dec 16, 2010 7:27:02 GMT -5
I did but i had no feedback on statistics. It seems opened more than an year ago. Wheelie, what do you think about opening a new internal pool on this topic?
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Post by trinity on Dec 16, 2010 8:17:45 GMT -5
Less than 0,1% of the population in an average western country sits in a chair. Besides that its obvious that using a wheelchair is not enough for a dev to start a relationship with someone. Age, social background, look, humor, intellegence... whatever, like in every partnership the chemistry between both must be working, and if its let say 1 in a 1000 (which is not very high) then you have one possible match in a million! And you have to find him. Damned probabilities.... they are still against me!!!! ;D I completely understand them when they decide to life their devness in a fantasy, and I dont blame anyone for that, I would possible do the same if I had to walk in their moccasins Boots, the season says boots. Here is snowing. Seriously speaking, I settle for fantasies for many years and I understand both the question and the answers. Another question that comes out from this thread and IMHO deserves a reply is why a wheeler stands up devs because things got too real? I’m very curious about that. Unfortunately Coffee seems not yet here to tell us
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Post by Valkyrja on Dec 16, 2010 12:04:50 GMT -5
Here, in Argentina... the percents of SCI is just the 3% in the entire country, more or less... 1.200.000 people. So... there´s is very little wheelers (in the range of age and location) to be found... I repeat... that percent is in the entire country... of 2.780.400 km²!!... So... explain me... how (when I was single and young) could I find a wheeler!?!?
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Post by MarineAmp on Dec 16, 2010 15:06:43 GMT -5
3% of your countries population is still around 36,000. Granted they do have to fit in your age range, and location can be a workable issue. Then you are going through the same process of anyone else, finding the right person for you. Obviously this is easier said than done.
Saddam Hussein killed 1% of his own countries population on a yearly basis, and if that 1% could speak now I don't think they would say that was a small number.
Back to the topic, the easiest way to find wheelers or what disability you are attracted too, I would look in the places where they are going to be in large numbers. The best place I can think of is adaptive sporting events (mainly because they are happening on a daily basis somewhere). This can be at any level, from local events to paralympic level events. At almost all of these events volunteers are needed to either assist the participants directly or indirectly. Some events cater to specific injuries or disabilities, and others offer a wide range of disabilities.
Using the internet would be the best way to find these. Key words that I would use would be adaptive sports, or find specific sports like wheelchair basketball, sled hockey, wheelchair racing, adaptive skiing, both snow and water, or look under paralympic sports. I'm sure that is more than enough to get you started.
This applies to anyone who would want to participate in a lot of these events too. Most of these events are put on by non-profit organizations that make it free or at very little cost to participate. In most cases equipment is already provided, and if it is something that you do want to get your own equipment there are organizations out there that can help you. I know of one in particular located in the states called Challenged Athletes Foundation that their sole purpose is to provide athletes with equipment, coaches, and even money to travel to locations where events are being held. And this applies to any disability. Granted some sports only cater to certain disabilities. Like I can't play quad rugby, but some who qualifies to play quad rugby won't qualify to play sitting volleyball. I've seen a guy with severe CP who couldn't even hold his own head up water ski. If there is a will, there is a way.
If anyone wants anymore specifics I can definitely try to answer any questions. If I don't know the answer I'll do my best to look it up for you. I've also heard of skydiving too.
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Post by Cake on Dec 16, 2010 16:12:52 GMT -5
Well I didnt want to say that devs prefere to life in a fantasy, its more that I think they have not many other choices. Less than 0,1% of the population in an average western country sits in a chair. Besides that its obvious that using a wheelchair is not enough for a dev to start a relationship with someone. Age, social background, look, humor, intellegence... whatever, like in every partnership the chemistry between both must be working, and if its let say 1 in a 1000 (which is not very high) then you have one possible match in a million! And you have to find him. Also keep in mind some devs still have problems with their feelings, some cant imagine to tell friends/family about their devness. Some have an exiting sexuality that has nothing to do with disabilities, and their devness is just another part of their sexuality. And there are others in good working relationships with AB guys, sometimes even with children, so you can imagine how hard it would be to sacrifice all that for the chance to find mr. 1/1000000 superwheeler. I completely understand them when they decide to life their devness in a fantasy, and I dont blame anyone for that, I would possible do the same if I had to walk in their moccasins There, you said it ALL. Those are the many reasons why not every dev is in a relationship with a wheeler and why some devs never will be, and why this is a tragedy for some, but not for all. Summed up perfectly, sittingbull!
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Post by matisse on Dec 16, 2010 17:28:54 GMT -5
Well, I have no basis to say this other than a general impression after being on the board for a while, but I would not be the least bit surprised if a very significant percentage of devs do nothing affirmative to try to find themselves a wheeler, like going to wheeler sporting events, etc. But I don't think it's necessarily because they *want* to remain in fantasy land, I think it's a combination of being self-conscious about their dev-ness, plus the fact that most women (at least in the US) are too wimpy to make the first move.
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