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Post by midwestguy on May 14, 2016 11:50:10 GMT -5
God forbid they just hire a real quad actor. EXACTLY!!! It would be so refreshing.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 12:01:08 GMT -5
The first time I read Me Before You I was very upset with the implied endorsement of euthanasia for PWDs. I am especially sensitive to the topic because I am a survivor of (my father's) suicide. I am very glad I read the sequel because I felt (spoiler alert) it showed how much Louisa did not want Will to die. Me After You dealt with her grief (and more.) I then re-read MBY and liked it more the second time. I am very eager to see the film! Suicide is a VERY touchy issue for me as well. I don't understand it... as it pertains to people that are perfectly healthy. It seems so foreign and an anathema to me. I absolutely loved every second of life (when I was AB)... even the hard times... BUT... that being said... when it comes to crippling illness and disease.. and when it comes to terminal illness... I can see why others might choose to make that choice for themselves. I still don't believe it should be a choice made hastily.. BUT there is no dignity in death (most of the time). Shitting and pissing on yourself.. vomiting on yourself.. drooling and bleeding all over everything... just for an example. I think it should be a free choice of the individual going through it. BUT I think the law allowing it should mandate counseling sessions. Just an opinion. I'm ok without the law existing in the states. BUT if I was a severe brain injury where I was such a burden and not really there... I wouldn't want to stick around. That's not what I would want for MYSELF... same if I had ALS.. or was a low functioning quad.. BUT again.. that's me. There CAN be value in every life DESPITE injury, illness, and disability.. Look at Hawking... Look at Reeves. At the end of the day I would support it being an informed, well thought out, personal choice. BUT since it's not a law here in the states.. A little irrelevant. The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man who lives fully is prepared to die at any time. -Mark Twain
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Post by melita on May 21, 2016 17:21:32 GMT -5
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Post by harmonniousvision on May 21, 2016 18:34:10 GMT -5
Good review I'd say not that I've seen it in agree with the points that were made
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Post by lucretia on May 25, 2016 10:31:49 GMT -5
The actor held a Twitter conversation. My favorite was this:
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Post by harmonniousvision on May 25, 2016 10:35:47 GMT -5
I know at least one of our members participated in the twitter conversation and asked some pretty hard questions...
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Post by lucretia on May 25, 2016 10:41:18 GMT -5
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Post by itsmurdocksfault on May 25, 2016 11:45:44 GMT -5
The thing about these types of movies is that they want to sell, and many times the way to do that is to touch sensitive topics like suicide and euthanasia. It would be nice to have a simple PWD romance story, we devs would sure love it, but most people aren’t devs, so that´s what we get from Hollywood. I read the book, and I liked it. I don’t think the topic was taken lightly. Everyone in his family, and the heroine´s family as well, were against it. The whole reason why they hired her was to “cheer him up” and maybe change his mind. I don’t know much about suicide or euthanasia but I do know that people take their lives for even less than what happened to Will, so it is understandable that he would be in that place. Some people are strong and move on with life, and some don’t. There a French movie about a quad, it not a romance but it´s nice, and if you haven’t seen it I would recommend it. www.imdb.com/title/tt1675434/?ref_=nv_sr_1
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Post by matisse on May 25, 2016 11:58:25 GMT -5
He doesn't see her naked or get to feel her up?!?!?!
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Post by Born2Roll on May 25, 2016 22:21:53 GMT -5
He doesn't see her naked or get to feel her up?!?!?! He'd have to go on GAME OF THRONES for that
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Post by harmonniousvision on May 25, 2016 22:57:48 GMT -5
i did not enjoy the book... it wasn't devvy which is why i read it hoping for a fix it didn't even push my sappy romance buttons... I don't think i'm going to see this movie afterall at least i'm not going to spend money to see it... IF i see it on cable next year maybe i'll watch it... Born2Roll sent me this article... its an interview with the Director(?) there's a quote "My nephew is in a wheelchair and I hope he will be pleased to see this shown in a way that does not make audiences too uncomfortable. If we had shown Will being taken in and out of his chair, or put in a hoist over a bath, the impression we would give is of difficulty. I wanted to make it more normal.” that just makes me feel ill... they're "able-washing" disability... Heaven forbid people see that the normal lives of PWDs can be "difficult" www.theguardian.com/film/2016/may/22/me-before-you-film-love-disability-thea-sharrock-sam-claflin
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Post by Born2Roll on May 25, 2016 23:55:32 GMT -5
For folks who enjoy actual PWDs in their PWD viewing pleasure...
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Post by lucretia on May 26, 2016 9:17:15 GMT -5
Okay, everyone knows how much I hate the book and the movie (the idea and the interviews and the trailer.... all incredibly cringe-worthy). I'm married to a disabled guy who is truly an activist, and have a friend in the #notdeadyet movement. I'm absolutely in the anti-abelist camp. Aggressively, sometimes annoyingly so. My daughter, however, has a different focus. She's a warrior regarding mental illness. Just as aggressive and annoying as I am about disability. And, while our respective points of view are often in harmony, that's not always the case. Take this shit show of a movie. She hasn't read the book, and has no plans to do so. However, her POV is here is a guy who has suffered extreme trauma. He is textbook depressed. He has all the resources available to him: Financial stability, a family who loves and supports him emotionally, complete autonomy in his choices, and a relationship that brings him genuine pleasure. And he still chooses suicide. She says this is a sad, yet often accurate, portrayal of extreme depression, and the disability community doesn't have exclusive rights to this movie. I conceded this point to her. (P.S. I'm super proud of the strong young women I'm blessed to call my daughters. )
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Post by Maurine on May 26, 2016 10:45:19 GMT -5
Okay, everyone knows how much I hate the book and the movie (the idea and the interviews and the trailer.... all incredibly cringe-worthy). I'm married to a disabled guy who is truly an activist, and have a friend in the #notdeadyet movement. I'm absolutely in the anti-abelist camp. Aggressively, sometimes annoyingly so. My daughter, however, has a different focus. She's a warrior regarding mental illness. Just as aggressive and annoying as I am about disability. And, while our respective points of view are often in harmony, that's not always the case. Take this shit show of a movie. She hasn't read the book, and has no plans to do so. However, her POV is here is a guy who has suffered extreme trauma. He is textbook depressed. He has all the resources available to him: Financial stability, a family who loves and supports him emotionally, complete autonomy in his choices, and a relationship that brings him genuine pleasure. And he still chooses suicide. She says this is a sad, yet often accurate, portrayal of extreme depression, and the disability community doesn't have exclusive rights to this movie. I conceded this point to her. (P.S. I'm super proud of the strong young women I'm blessed to call my daughters. ) She may be right, but I don't think that's what the general audience is going to think after watching the movie. Why couldn't they make a movie about a depressive AB who commints suicide "despite" having all these things ("financial stability, a family who loves and supports him emotionally, complete autonomy in his choices, and a relationship that brings him genuine pleasure")? There's so much wrong with this book and even more so with the movie as it seems. I deliberately don't read about it outside this board nor did I watch the trailer, because I don't want to be angry.
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Post by mikefatty on May 27, 2016 12:18:33 GMT -5
I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who finds this movie offensive. I always been a house Targaryen supporter but I'm feeling house Stark a lot more after seeing this movie preview.
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