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Post by Dr. BiPAP Sachin on Dec 19, 2019 12:33:52 GMT -5
But all my life it has been a comfort as I have had many wonderful, long daydreams about having a relationship with a PWD. Most of the time these do not include sex. They include getting to know and fall in love with a PWD. So as we have said before, it is a heart feeling, a very special feeling that I cherish. Having sex with a PWD would not satisfy me. Only a relationship and love would satisfy me (if I was single). This accurately describes my ideal woman (dev or not)!
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Post by zacc on Dec 19, 2019 12:37:35 GMT -5
I really agree with what you said here. "I would challenge people to consider that devotees may actually live in "fetish land" but it is a far nicer place with rich soil and breathtaking flora and fauna and it's a much larger land with a very diverse population, unlike what people say when they talk about it." I think sexual deviance or difference, as long as it's safe, is something to embrace in oneself. I don't claim to know much about each individual devotee on this forum but I would agree with brinzerdecalli that fetish isn't a dirty word. And I wouldn't say just because an aspect of someone gets you off that you can't have a holistic approach to that sexual inclination, that is to say you can still see the whole person even if your attracted to a specific part of them or a specific style of sex.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 15:55:07 GMT -5
Ive read this entire thread and agree with a lot thats been said, but dear god, why does everything have to be dissected and labelled ? Ive said this before, but i have an attraction to certain disabled men end of story. Surely we are perpetuating the opinion that this attraction is 'weird' by questioning it constantly. We dont question why some people like muscular men or blondes or large breasts etc etc etc. We have to normalize our own opinions of our attractions before we can expect others to do so.
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Post by robbb on Dec 19, 2019 16:14:41 GMT -5
Ive read this entire thread and agree with a lot thats been said, but dear god, why does everything have to be dissected and labelled ? Ive said this before, but i have an attraction to certain disabled men end of story. Surely we are perpetuating the opinion that this attraction is 'weird' by questioning it constantly. We dont question why some people like muscular men or blondes or large breasts etc etc etc. We have to normalize our own opinions of our attractions before we can expect others to do so. Good point, well made delight but I guess in fairness many of the people here are still trying to work it out for themselves. Not everyone has the benefit of being as accepting as you and I are of our attractions. R.
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Post by IcarusFellOnce on Dec 19, 2019 16:19:00 GMT -5
There's nothing wrong with trying to understand things in our world better. I think at the end of the day all humans want to be understood.. and most of us have a natural curiosity to understand things and people in our world. Every individual is entitled to identify, label themselves (or not), etc.. however they want to. Just as we all are free to explore and learn as much as we can for understanding as we want. I've appreciated this thread.. thanks for starting it and for those that have contributed.
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Post by SouthernCalGal on Dec 19, 2019 16:55:58 GMT -5
Amen @delight !
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 17:25:13 GMT -5
I don't think it has been dissected, just different views and opinions and also people in different stages of their devness giving their input. I don't think anyone said its "weird" or maybe I missed that part. I also don't think we are questioning devness, we are just discussing it in its various versions. At least I think that's what happened or is happening. We have to be accepting that devness is different for each and everyone of us and for some devs it is not easy to open up here and when they do, it should be treated with the utmost respect and should never be belittled, especially not by the PWD. And maybe some of the PWD are dealing with their own issues. This board should never be used to downplay or belittle devness.
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Post by Nate on Dec 19, 2019 17:28:16 GMT -5
My "understanding" is simply that we're all human. Plenty sufficient, that.
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Post by brinzerdecalli on Dec 19, 2019 17:29:20 GMT -5
Ive read this entire thread and agree with a lot thats been said, but dear god, why does everything have to be dissected and labelled ? Ive said this before, but i have an attraction to certain disabled men end of story. Surely we are perpetuating the opinion that this attraction is 'weird' by questioning it constantly. We dont question why some people like muscular men or blondes or large breasts etc etc etc. We have to normalize our own opinions of our attractions before we can expect others to do so. I completely agree! I think there is no need to label what you feel to live it... but when you are talking to people about a topic some language has to be used and even "have an attraction to certain disabled men" is a category not all devs, from what I have been seeing, would completely identify with. Can you see the implicit complication here? No we don't need to say it is weird! [And even if so, being weird is beautiful! Wabi-sabi if you will... I only really connect with weird people with weird interests.] But something that comes up often is the rarity, acceptance of, or misunderstandings around devness. This becomes impossible to discuss without addressing some labeling and labeling fails. I have said many times that there will be such a change to what devotee means and the prevalence of them and those with similar tendencies in society, once media idolizes then normalizes PWDs and a variety of admiration and attractions of them, but a lot of people don't agree with that on here. This is yet another topic that becomes overanalyzed. I personally find gender and sexuality studies very interesting and being so close to my situation it becomes even more engaging to talk about. Being here for almost illogical reasons [as many guys here are], a conversation like this is very good for passing the time and participating in the forum. Yet I do understand your question and regret typing here so critically and analytically, as now I think I am labeled PD's asshole... haha which is very counter to my intentions and reason for being on here. I can only hope my sacrifice has opened some minds and helped some people look at everything surrounding a bit differently. That is why I think I get trapped dissecting things so fully. I'm sure everyone has their own reasons, and that there's such a vast divide of reasons between devs and PWDs on here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 17:38:16 GMT -5
What are you trying to find out brinzerdecalli You are here for illogical reasons, I don't get it... And there is not really such a vast divide between devs and PWDs here, maybe between you and devs. I think you should just take a step back or a step down from the high horse.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2019 17:41:08 GMT -5
Show of hands...how many guys are here for illogical reasons?
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Post by Dr. BiPAP Sachin on Dec 19, 2019 17:45:39 GMT -5
What are you trying to find out brinzerdecalli You are here for illogical reasons, I don't get it... And there is not really such a vast divide between devs and PWDs here, maybe between you and devs. I think you should just take a step back or a step down from the high horse. Hold on a sec. Did I miss something? What high horse? Uh oh…
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Post by myrrh on Dec 19, 2019 17:47:22 GMT -5
No we don't need to say it is weird! [And even if so, being weird is beautiful! Wabi-sabi if you will...
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Post by brinzerdecalli on Dec 19, 2019 17:49:39 GMT -5
What are you trying to find out brinzerdecalli You are here for illogical reasons, I don't get it... And there is not really such a vast divide between devs and PWDs here, maybe between you and devs. I think you should just take a step back or a step down from the high horse. By illogical reasons I mean on the random chance of the stars aligning and some amazing girl, who is local, connects with what I say, finds me appealing, and we meet and have an amazing and fulfilling life together. I'd say that is pretty illogical! The vast divide was of the reasons for being on this website and participating on forums, not the people. I have said nothing rude or mean to anyone. Yet you keep insulting me for no reason. I'm on no high-horse. I keep trying to be pleasant, and just share my perspectives, but I have been met with nothing but hostility.
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Post by missparkle on Dec 19, 2019 18:04:17 GMT -5
brinzerdecalli , I am sorry if you feel attacked or not welcomed. But you have to understand that many of us have dissected our souls, even in this thread, to such a depths, to try to answer your questions. To such a depths that even our close friends, family, partners never had a chance to peek in. And in a way, it hurts being so completely cut open in front of you and yet, you are not looking inside, but read your manual instead, trying to find truth there.
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