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Post by Justagirl on Nov 6, 2016 9:00:29 GMT -5
I agree with you @rich86, PD is and has always been primarily geared for devs of guys in chairs. However, the fact of the matter is that this place is for all disability types, and it's dynamic- ever changing. It takes on the form of those that are posting. It's definitely had different vibes and focuses throughout the years. Sometimes it's more about devs that are actually in relationships with PWD's, sometimes it seems to be skewed more towards those who aren't. Just depends who's here and what they're posting. My point is, MAKE more of it about amps if you want. We've had VI guys (and others) start threads called "ask me anything", just to facilitate discussion about their personal disability. There's a lot of lurkers here, members and non members alike, that don't post for various reasons. Some probably feel exactly the same way you do. Maybe by posting something that pertains to you and not wheeler based, you'll start a new trend. Who knows.
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Post by malibu on Nov 6, 2016 13:04:08 GMT -5
Just keep in mind you won't always have the opportunity to explain and defend a story. I want to believe that you did not mean to offend, maybe you will understand why I felt uncomfortable reading.
In your story you used a lot of elements that are stereotypical seen as attractive, like money, career, boobs, muscles, dicks and idealized everything consistently to an extreme, almost satirical. I felt that incomplete low paras are pictured as the ideal. That questions the severity of the disability, making it look like his only problem as a para is not having anyone to bang. You used the word lucky, so contrasting there will be the unlucky guys for whom your heart goes out. As you can see, no need to, as devs embrace and often prefer the guy exactly the way he is, no need to idealize as they are already ideal.
Not seeing the wheelchair, finding the arm sexier with a Rolex, growing boobs despite workout - it is not really wrong, they could be dream like elements that appear out of nowhere and follow a broken logic. Double H, you called it a cruel joke yourself, I think many who got them by nature struggle with health and psychological problems, some even reduce size surgical, because it is a burden to be primarly seen for a pair of boobs. There could have been a connection to disability, maybe both could show each other how beautiful they are.
It doesn't really matter if PD is primarly for wheelers or not. Many devs are very specific but some will enjoy reading and maybe even change their mind about something they haven't noticed before. You will only find out if you try.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 13:30:21 GMT -5
You raise an interesting point re: luck. But you missed the point. That word was used from his perspective, not the devs. While devs seem to be ok and accepting of disability, the world as a whole is not. And disability causes a lot of depression and anxiety for those who have it. Ask some of the wheelers here if my friend is lucky or not.
Again I won't try. This was an experiment and I wanted to try to respond to devs request for more erotica. It sounds like you guys are the best to handle the dev perspective.
As for my experiences: they would not read like erotica, but a suicide note. I wouldn't even know how to write so a dev got off of my disability because I'm not disabled.
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Post by malibu on Nov 6, 2016 13:37:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 13:50:28 GMT -5
I miss your point. Your profile says you're a devotee. Unless you're being sarcastic which would just be mean. I do things better than most two handed people. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 13:51:08 GMT -5
I wouldn't even know how to write so a dev got off of my disability because I'm not disabled. For starters, your arm without a hand is very phallic. It would kill you if you tried that. |
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Post by Corey on Nov 6, 2016 13:56:44 GMT -5
Malibu was making a joke earlier. She was just being silly  Maybe only disabled people would get the joke though... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 14:13:29 GMT -5
As I said before, I am not disabled. Disability is a state of mind.
So, this kettle ain't black. Does Malibu need a lesson in how to treat non-ABs like human beings? I'd be happy to educate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 14:25:41 GMT -5
I'm perfectly ok with that! But it's hard to embrace someone who sees you as something you are not (disabled). It's like guys who only date a girl with a certain body type - are they into you as a person or are you just a vessel for something they like?
And can we stop the PIV talk? I'm not a virgin.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 14:27:43 GMT -5
. One thing that stuck out right away and this is already mentioned above, how can she not know he is in a wheelchair? That would be the first thing I would have realized.
I have a feeling that you have a little of bitterness the way you write about "this forum is only for wheelers". Another thing I want to add is that if you think devs are as easy as your female character in the story you got that wrong, we are a LOT more complicated than that.
I. It was very obvious that these are probably fantasies you enjoy or things that turn you on about a woman, big tits, braces, sex in a dental office. My first initial thought was maybe something for a site like Fetlife.
Ok, to address the wheelchair thing: my research showed a small % of devs don't realize they are devs until after adolescence. That was my premise. Have you been to the dentist/ortho? The chair is huge, plus a portable light/sink - lots of things in the way. I understand you all feel you would notice these things right away - and perhaps so - but a "late bloomer" might not. Not all stories encaptyre everything about a certain population or even the majority of that population. If they did, why would anyone read them? They know what's going to happen. I have no bitterness about this forum in any capacity - why would I have written something and continued to participate here if I did? Also I take offense that you think I believe all devs are easy and sex maniacs. This was a sexual story - just like most on that blog. I did not imply or outright state that devs are nymphos. So take a step down from that perch. Yes big boobs turn me on - just because I'm missing a hand doesn't mean I'm not a typical straight man. But Braces? No. fetlife? Seriously? I solicited feedback because I am a writer and want to be the best possible. But your comments appear to be as ignorant as you're saying my story was. Even though I tried to write my comment where it doesn't offend you, it seems like it did. This is the deal, if I would be in your situation right now with all this feedback, some of it brutal, I would hide, cry my eyes out and probably vow to never write again. I am pretty sensitive and criticism can bring me down quickly, I hate that about myself that I can't be stronger and just say "Fuck it", I do what I want and I don't give a shit about what anyone says...well, unfortunately I am not like that. So, I know this is probably really tough for you right now to read all this feedback. So I actually feel bad for what you are going through right now...., As for the dentist, I go quite a bit and yes, I would know if my dentist is in a wheelchair but oh well. Also, I thought the Late Bloomer thing was more about her maturing, not about her being a dev. I actually have written about women who didn't fully realize they were a dev until they met a guy in a wheelchair and it didn't just happen that they realized that right in the dentist chair and then had sex. There was so much more to that and lots of struggles on the dev side and the disabled guy's side as well, until they maybe actually got closer and finally were in bed. And at least in my stories there are no hard cocks involved, never. Every dev is different but I would say most of the stories on the Blog are not only about sex as you put it, there are back stories, different characters and romance, yes, we are women and even though I personally don't care for cheesy romance I do enjoy a romantic touch here and there. As for Fetlife, I am totally serious about that, I am not mocking you. People have dental brace fetishes, big boobs of course, dental chair sex, medical fetishes and on Fetlife you can find all of that and lots more and some people post stories about their fetishes, there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I have no problem with those things, heck I have my own fetishes but yes, just as you put it you are a straight man and you didn't have to mention your missing hand in that sentence and so with that I do believe you may have an audience on Fetlife, an audience of straight men who would possibly enjoy your story. You know, I am sorry your story didn't hit the spot for some of the devs here and I am sorry you have to read through all this feedback but I agree with others, write about what you know or do some more research. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 14:36:25 GMT -5
Again, I asked for feedback. Please stop insinuating I'm upset because the feedback is negative. I'm not. I appreciate it. Read back through my comments and you'll see what upset me. Or don't. Up to you.
Also, I have no problem with fetlife or people who have different ways or seeing the world - sexual or not. But you seemed to say I had a fetish. I do not.
Still waiting for Malibu to explain her comment though.
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Post by AngelsFallFirst on Nov 6, 2016 16:37:05 GMT -5
I miss your point. Your profile says you're a devotee. Unless you're being sarcastic which would just be mean. I do things better than most two handed people. And your profile says "disabled male"... You may say 'disabled' is a state of mind, but a lot of guys here don't think of the word that way. Some people think "diferently abled", for example, is a lot more offensive than "disabled" so don't judge Malibu for not knowing what term you prefer. (Yes I know there are a lot more alternatives out there than disabled/differently abled) |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 16:43:20 GMT -5
Well I said I wasn't disabled then she mocked me indicating she didn't respect my opinion. So, respectfully, your point is moot.
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Post by AngelsFallFirst on Nov 6, 2016 17:14:31 GMT -5
Well I said I wasn't disabled then she mocked me indicating she didn't respect my opinion. So, respectfully, your point is moot. But your profile still says "disabled male". So she might just not have understood that you see the word 'disabled' as a personal state of mind, just like the dictionaries don't define it as a state of mind, but as a (verifiable) physical or mental condition. In that sense your comment does seem a bit weird and she just replied to that in the same fashion. So yes, she mocked you, but I think it was more because of a misunderstanding than an attempt to insult you I can't help but wonder what you are looking for in this forum if you don't identify yourself as disabled since "This message board is for devotees of physically disabled men. Female devotees and gay male devotees are welcome to join. Disabled men are also welcome." (quoted from the guidelines)? Not trying to encourage you to leave or anything (I happen to be glad amputees are presented as well and would love for more stories with amps), just wondering. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2016 17:41:12 GMT -5
I chose that because that's how devs label me. Again, just looking for a simple apology from Malibu. I said I wasn't disabled and she mocked me for it. She can at least be a decent human being and apologize.
I'm here for the same reason most came I suppose: curiosity. I don't identify with any of the struggles I've read, other than social- though those aren't really discussed much here.
I met a dev who was very aggressive and I wanted to find out more. Searched and found this forum.
Think I'll leave the forum.
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Maybe only disabled people would get the joke though...
