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Post by matisse on Jun 8, 2011 10:57:33 GMT -5
Very interesting. I don't think I've heard it described quite this way before, you certainly have given it a lot of thought. As for the mental effort required to move around, I think most people don't even realize the amount of effort it can take. I have sometimes wondered if that mental effort helps wheelers to deal with other things, because it can actually require a fair bit of concentration. And in my case, as I mentioned before, some fear (missing the transfer, falling, etc.). I doubt that most people deal with fear as much as wheelers do, for what everyone considers simply tasks of daily life.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Jun 8, 2011 20:07:50 GMT -5
Thanks. There's been a sh*tload of introspection. Sparked mainly by the questions asked by guys and then discussions with the gals. Do you have any idea how hard it is to identify WHAT about something attracts you? Have you ever tried? The answers are still sometimes hard to force out if asked over the phone. Which is part of the reason I decided to write about it and then post. Because it IS so hard to articulate. And I'm a fairly articulate person (well, I have my moments ) . You'll note that a lot of the devs have referred to having to answer the question. I hope, if they agree with this thread, that they feel free to use it as needed. Again, I've loved the input from the guys and would love to see more.
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Post by brace4impact on Jun 9, 2011 20:36:19 GMT -5
"although I DID pass anger management the second time I took it..." I think that's one of the funnier things I've read in a while
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Post by Dee Dee on Jun 9, 2011 20:48:05 GMT -5
And you know what? I don't think there has to be an answer to the WHY. For me, a lot of life boils down to, "It just is what it is." There is so much angst and unhappiness surrounding us, and most of it is because we refuse to accept things the way they are. Life is full of stuff we can't control, and there are so many things we can't know or understand because that information is simply not available to us. It doesn't mean we can't be happy in the moment, just taking life as it comes: accepting what we don't like as just another part of life, and enjoying what we like when we find it. Ditto, ditto, ditto Luracita! We don´t have to answer the why-question. The universe is filled with unanswered questions and that is completely all-right. I fully understand people asking us, the devotees, but we don´t owe them an explanation, when we don´t have one. It is as simple as that, really.
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Post by Emma on Jun 9, 2011 23:27:21 GMT -5
But unlike some people on here, I have never been able to pinpoint WHY I like what I do......I really don't know, and it's not for lack of introspection or desire to know.......And you know what? I don't think there has to be an answer to the WHY. Yes, me too! I spent many years trying to figure out why I am a dev and after lots of discussions with other devs (both male and female) I have given up. It doesn't matter to me anymore. I know what I like and have spent a lot of time and energy exploring the dev side of me and feel very okay with what I am, actually I'm really proud of it and love that I am a dev. I'm happy to discuss it with others but really can't answer the question as to why. It's not an issue with my father because he was very different than what others have described as the issue they think caused their devness. I just think I was born a dev and am one of the many varieties of people out there. The only thing that makes a tiny bit of sense to me is that there's no genetic reason why amputees shouldn't pass on their genes since 99% of amputations aren't genetically caused. So very basically, I'm here to help those guys with perfectly good genes pass them on. Oh yeah, I never read the religion thread so don't know who I could be offending with my evolutionary explanation of devness. Lucretia I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way. Sometimes I feel like the odd one out here.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2011 9:55:12 GMT -5
I can see why you gals may want to educate someone(like me) I don't see why you would feel }obliigated{. ie. guys that like big boobs...maybe he has fond memories of breast feeding, maybe he felt short-changed when breast-feeding, potentially dear-old-Dad had man boobs, he could have possibly had a view of twin peaks from his backyard growing up. I'VE NEVER heard a guy asked that question, nor give an explanation...granted their hankering is more common, socially acceptable, and even reinforced by the media and society...It doesn't seem to me like it's all that different of an issue.
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Post by dentelle on Jun 10, 2011 10:26:33 GMT -5
I guess, I could be asked why don't I look at a guy's arse. Plenty of ladies do at work. Plenty of guys like that on a gal too. I only think I ever looked at one and it had been pointed out to me, so I had to look at another to compare the two, nuff said Infact, some words from a song stand out for me. One Night in Bangkok "I get my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine." I talk to your face, not your arse ;D
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Post by ruthmadison on Jun 10, 2011 10:45:01 GMT -5
I guess, I could be asked why don't I look at a guy's arse. Plenty of ladies do at work. Plenty of guys like that on a gal too. I only think I ever looked at one and it had been pointed out to me, so I had to look at another to compare the two, nuff said Infact, some words from a song stand out for me. One Night in Bangkok "I get my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine." I talk to your face, not your arse ;D Ah, Chess. Some of my favorite music
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Post by dentelle on Jun 10, 2011 20:54:10 GMT -5
Ahhh Lucretia. The person(s) whose assets were being compared were that of the boss and his brother Heheh. Before that I swear on the head of my first born child I never looked at a man's arse.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 13:24:30 GMT -5
I think that the male arse is more of an asset amongst your gay friends...for us guys in wheelchairs...women rarely have viewing opportunities
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Jun 11, 2011 13:52:43 GMT -5
I think that the male arse is more of an asset amongst your gay friends...for us guys in wheelchairs...women rarely have viewing opportunities Which really is a shame.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Jun 11, 2011 14:08:35 GMT -5
Which really is a shame. Yes... well... I've always been much more likely to notice other features, like smiles, for example... However, when the opportunity to admire something else comes up, I'm not going to look the other way... ;D Yeah, it's generally difficult to ogle someone's ass when you're talking to them. Which is, after all, the most important thing. And I am way fonder of other parts. But still... ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2011 14:48:34 GMT -5
Which others Inigo?
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Post by ruthmadison on Jun 11, 2011 17:22:02 GMT -5
If I'm going to ogle someone, I usually go for feet. Paralyzed feet are so hot.
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Post by Inigo Montoya on Jun 12, 2011 12:21:37 GMT -5
Specifically, shoulders and hands. But, as I told someone else recently, all of that is entirely subject to what's between his ears. Those things are eye candy, you know? I'll happily be lead into emotion by someone who doesn't fit my physical ideal. Because the WHO is far more important than the WHAT.
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